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11,000 Clergy Abuse Claims Filed

 
 
husker
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 10:04 am
Priests as in Roman Catholic??
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husker
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 10:08 am
I'd have to look I posted from another article there are around 44,000 priests, I do not recall how that is qualified but 44,000 divided by 4,450 claims - that's a terrible number!!!




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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 10:09 am
Link to Boston Globe article about priests
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husker
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 10:17 am
Went and found my link - a lot like the other link






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jespah
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 10:45 am
Many thanks for finding the links.
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yeahman
 
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Reply Wed 18 Feb, 2004 11:46 pm
husker wrote:
I'd have to look I posted from another article there are around 44,000 priests, I do not recall how that is qualified but 44,000 divided by 4,450 claims - that's a terrible number!!!

Those are the number of claims not the number of priests accused. Many of them are repeat offenders.

The percentage of pedophile priests is usually put at around 2% with some saying that it is as high as 3%. I can't see how the Church would effectively prevent those few people from becoming priests. If every man in American had the unsupervised access to children and respect that these priests had, I would imagine that the rate of pedophilia among the general population would be around 2%.

The most important step, IMO, is to prevent repeat offenses. That's the most obvious and effective measure. There have been steps taken towards that goal since the scandal broke.
Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People Revised Edition
They are now required to report cases of sexual abuse, past or present, to the civil authorities. Internally, there is now a one strike and you're out rule.

I'm all for married clergy but not because it would prevent sexual abuse. It won't. I don't think pedophilia is something you can identify in a candidate for the priesthood.
And yes, there are married priests. Celibacy is a law of the Roman Catholic Church, not a divine law. So Eastern Catholic Rite priests can be married (they are not bound by the canon laws of the Roman Church) and the vow of celibacy for married Protestant ministers who convert are regularly waved. Past popes have been married. The law is of a practical nature, not a theological one. Though the Catholic Church is richer than any other religious organization in the world, that's only because of its size. On the local parish level, they rake in less money than comparable Protestant churches because Catholics are not required to tithe but contribute any amount they wish. So the salaries of priests are around the poverty line and very often significantly below. You need a lot more money to support a wife and kids. Also priests with families have less time and are less able to move around.
I think with some planning, celibacy, can be phased out over time. I think it has to be done eventually anyway. The number of priests are rapidly dwindling.

Also, there is a great deal of good that priests do with children. Many of these priests, because they can't have children of their own, care for the children of their parish like they were their own kids. The kids see their priests as a father figure, or at least an uncle. I don't think that's a bad thing and I don't think it needs to. One of the effects of this scandal has been that people are now more likely to speak out against sexual abuse. The laity can still trust their priests as long as they are also willing to speak out if there is misconduct.
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micah
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2004 12:10 am
yes...this is all disturbing and an abomination...

please allow me to ask this question:

does God still love an offending priest??

is salvation still possible for an offending priest??

i have my own opinions on such matters, but i'm curious to read others' responses....
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Mr Stillwater
 
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Reply Thu 19 Feb, 2004 03:40 am
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On the local parish level, they rake in less money than comparable Protestant churches because Catholics are not required to tithe but contribute any amount they wish


Well they can issue stock against their assets and act responsibly towards their stakeholders! What BS, the Church is fabulously wealthy and enjoys perks such as a tax-free status and the largesse of the wealthy (and guilty).

In the world I'd run, we'd start by dismantling the churches, selling the stones to the faithful and find out how much gold those 'holy' layabouts have in their fillings! Then we'd do some serious cost/benefits analysis of religion: ie if we give them X dollars and they use Y dollars to cover up scandals, how are we actually helping anyone?
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