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DEBASING THE CURRENCY OF LANGUAGE

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 02:42 pm
I see no reason to object to gadget.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 02:46 pm
@Setanta,
Thanks Set but one thinks of a gadget usu as having moving parts
Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 02:50 pm
If you look up the definition it's a small machine or tool. That gives a lot of lattitude (longitudinally speaking).
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 03:02 pm
@dalehileman,
Not me~~~ a whisk, a bottle opener, a wide flat spoon with lots of holes, a gravy ladle which pours from its bottom, a grapefruit knife and an apple peeler are all good gadgets to my mind and not a moving part on any of them.

Joe(pass the egg separator)Nation Razz
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 09:00 pm
Hero. Don't you have to do something, and doesn't it have to be voluntary?
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 10:10 pm
@Setanta,
You tried this nonsense some time back regarding iconic, Setanta. Words frequently have more than one meaning and in many cases they have many meanings.

Stop your pedantry already.

Quote:
Now they pounding legendary into a meaningless pulp. A local home improvement company talks about their "legendary" service. A local furniture company talks abou their legendary furniture. Wait . . . what? I've never run across a legend about a home improvement company, nor a furniture store.


Gee, all you would have do is check a dictionary to find out that you don't know your ass from a sinkhole.


M-W

2. well-known, famous
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 10:17 pm
@Thomas,
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Bryan Garner is a professional language maven


At this, Thomas, he sucks, big time. He often is a professional language snake oil salesman.

He can, like any native speaker, teach folks how to write. Of course there are always some who are more able than others to teach whatever.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 10:22 pm
@dalehileman,
Quote:
“Literally" to mean “figuratively”


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally

Quote:
“Literally" to mean “figuratively”

M-W

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hopefully

Usage Discussion of HOPEFULLY
In the 1960s the second sense of hopefully, which dates to the early 18th century and had been in fairly widespread use since at least the 1930s, underwent a surge in popularity. A surge of criticism followed in reaction, but the criticism took no account of the grammar of adverbs. Hopefully in its second sense is a member of a class of adverbs known as disjuncts. Disjuncts serve as a means by which the author or speaker can comment directly to the reader or hearer usually on the content of the sentence to which they are attached. Many other adverbs (as interestingly, frankly, clearly, luckily, unfortunately) are similarly used; most are so ordinary as to excite no comment or interest whatsoever. The second sense of hopefully is entirely standard.


JTT
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 10:24 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
So why do we beat up on hopefully?


For the same silly reasons that kept the peeves threads alive for so long, Set. Damn silly prescriptions, products that have made the Strunk & White generations grammatical [in a conscious sense] incompetents.

But you already knew that.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 11:07 pm
@Setanta,
How about: "insensitive" ?





David
roger
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 11:18 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Over used for sure, but maybe not debased. Maybe. . . .
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Thu 24 May, 2012 11:43 pm
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:
PS: Don't you love the word "nowadays"?


Oscar Wilde used that word back in the late 19th century. More than once, too. Nuttin' rawng with it.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 02:00 am
@Lustig Andrei,
Yeah, but it's not commonly used. My point in this thread is that there are words that are overused to the point of becoming meaningless. So, for example, one guy used "awesome." That was very much to the point--awesome ceased to have any real force as a word forty years ago.
parados
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 07:11 am
@Setanta,
Like totally!!
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 07:16 am
@Setanta,
This guy meant it literally. Talking to you is a bit like talking to God, you're both bloody miserable, and you never get the answer you want.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 07:19 am
@Setanta,
Nowadays isn't commonly used?

I'll have to let the folks at work know they're doing something unusual.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 07:54 am
@ehBeth,
I doubt you'll see it very often in print--at any event, it still means what it has always meant, and usage hasn't changed that.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 07:54 am
@izzythepush,
I guess i gave you credit for an ironic sense off humor you don't actually possess.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 08:35 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Yeah, but it's not commonly used.


More bullshit from Setanta.

Quote:
My point in this thread is that there are words that are overused to the point of becoming meaningless. So, for example, one guy used "awesome." That was very much to the point--awesome ceased to have any real force as a word forty years ago.


Yeah, he is overused and is - what about is? And while we're on the be verb, that god damn are is so overused, people don't know what it means.

Good thing we've got a sage here at A2K like you, Set. Otherwise we wouldn't know anything about language.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 25 May, 2012 08:40 am
@parados,
There is a cult of ignorance in the United States. ... nurtured by the false notion that what you have been taught about language has any relevance to reality.
 

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