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Terror or Freedom

 
 
Reply Tue 17 Apr, 2012 07:18 am
As current events illustrate a person may take violent action in order to support a cause.
Probably most of the suicide bombing which we hear of is by people who have allowed themselves to come under the control of fanatics for a formulaic style of religion. Essentially belief based on the arbitrary word of 'god' and even a secular 'god' in which a cause supplants all ethical logic. Free thought in some guise is threatening their cause.
But there are also anarchists, who are also anarchists of popular imagery. Those whose primary directive is freedom, and who will destroy anything that appears to endanger unrestrained liberty.
There may even by a half way house between the two, combining arid causes to arid freedom.
On the altruist wing, an almost impossible conundrum arises as to the point at which passive defence of society may give way to violent defence. A freedom fighter to some, is a terrorist to others. If the danger is from outside that altruist society, in a global society that is anarchistic, there is recourse to perfectly legitimate armed forces. But if the danger is from within, with bigotry and worse gaining ground. Or if the altruist cause is attempting to change an autocratic society. Then, there is the example of what has recently been done in the Middle East, something near to Ghandi's tactics, accepting that civil war may arise. At no point can the altruist simply murder the innocent.
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Reply Tue 17 Apr, 2012 09:59 am
@RW Standing,
I think you have really got to separate the violence from its justification...First of all, violence is a form of communication in which a person expresses what they feel and cannot say... And you really should rid yourself of the notion that violence is violent, as in sudden or explosive... If you do a person injury knowing you will hurt them even if you do not grasp the extent of the injury, then you do them violence and if it slow and painful it may actually be far worse than a blow...There is nothing about any political desire for change that requires violence... Usually the violence results from necessary change being long denied, or nursed injury becoming enraged... The forces of counter revolution are always more violent in nature just as a thief is more inclined to use violence to keep his spoils or get his way... It is no wonder for example that the south delivered the first blow in the Civil War... Slavery was all about violence, theft, kidnapping, rape, and forced labor... Those who lived upon it were already criminally minded...
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2012 01:27 pm
@RW Standing,
RW Standing wrote:
A freedom fighter to some, is a terrorist to others.


A freedom fighter is someone whose goal is freedom.

A terrorist is someone who launches covert attacks against civilians.

A freedom fighter might use terrorism as a tactic, but also might not use such tactics.

A terrorist might have freedom as their goal, but also might have some other goal instead of freedom.
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2012 03:29 pm
@RW Standing,
ur concept of freedom is wrong that is why confusions u make with is obviously pathetic

freedom is the source u r alone, since u cant b isolated from all while existing unless u r free of all as independant source urself so dont need everything to exist

freedom is never an ability to do smthg or move when criminals are then the most free which kill the concept of freedom being any right thing

what is free by definition is away from all and any else so for sure never reach to look terrorist when it can barely realize else reality facts
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