@Iminfinitydefined,
Iminfinitydefined wrote:
1) if you say that we don't "know" if or not our existence as thinking things will cease to be after our physical bodies die, kill yourself. You will not do this, because you understand and know this fact. Using your logic knowledge is unattainable.
I will not do this, but its not due to the reason you stated. I wont do this simply because I am afraid of death, and cant see how dying would benefit me. But its not because I believe I will cease to exist if I die. In fact, I firmly believe the opposite, that is, that I will not cease to exist if I die.
Iminfinitydefined wrote:
2) what's the difference between a machine that emulates a "true" thinking thing, and the thinking thing itself. If the machine does it's job nicely. Then They would both be thinking things.
What I meant is... even if all the other people in the world look and behave just like you, that doesnt means they are the same as you. You do not hold all the information which would be required to be 100% certain of that. For example: Imagine this reality as you know it is a computer simulation, and all the other people are simulations being presented to you. Wouldnt this mean that even if they look and behave just like you, they arent true thinking beings like yourself?
Iminfinitydefined wrote:
3) I'm sorry, but our emotions and our feelings are part of the thinking thing experience. And the world value is defined in any dictionary.
Iminfinitydefined wrote:
If there is no logical way to define value. Then we can't logically define what a thinking thing is either, or the fact that I am. I mean what is I am? How do you define it.
Let me try to put it this way: The value of something is subjective: depends of the individual. That being the case, you cannot prove that something has value, because value is not objective, its subjective.
But that is only true if no convention exists. If you are abiding to a convention such as that, say, money is valuable, when you could prove to someone that something is valuable because it can be exchanged for money. But this kind of proving requires a convention, that is, both parties must agree with the same premise. So to prove that morality has value in the way you are trying to do, first both parties would need to agree that life is valuable. But if it applies only to people who agree life is valuable, when its not an universal rule.
Iminfinitydefined wrote:
When you over think something you end up not making sense, which is something that most philosophers do.
Not necessarly, its just that the philosophers tend to fail to express themselves understandeably, but that doesnt mean they dont make sense behind their confusing words.