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Can anyone refute this definition of 'truth'?

 
 
mars90000000
 
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Reply Thu 29 Dec, 2011 05:11 pm
Read "Civilization and its Discontents" by Sigmund Freud
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 29 Dec, 2011 05:54 pm
@mars90000000,
One of our leading newspapers has a headline about depression costing the economy £11, 000,000,000.

Which should cause an increase in depression I should think. Freud hadn't thought of liberal media.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 29 Dec, 2011 06:40 pm
@spendius,
Though I swear that if they added up all the differing 'disease/illness/allergies' they have, and the cost to the nation - the total would top the GDP.

Had the same though with percentages of different illnes/allergies/diseases that they quote - every single person would have multiple problems.

Sometimes I think it's all just in the head of scientist/economists.
Procrustes
 
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Reply Thu 29 Dec, 2011 10:24 pm
@vikorr,
Quote:
Sometimes I think it's all just in the head of scientist/economists.

Where else would they get the idea to numerically represent illness and disease? It's like a sick benchmark to try and compete against.
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2012 12:16 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:

Hi JL,
Someday I may be tempted to read Nietzsche.
Do it when you can tell the difference between antidote and poison...
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 1 Jan, 2012 12:19 pm
@Pemerson,
Pemerson wrote:

Truth is already within us, we remember it when we lift from our minds all those "answers" handed down to us by parents, schools, religion, etc. etc. etc.
There is a lot we learn before anyone can tell us anything, before we can reason, and before we have any reference... There is much in life we never forget and yet can't quite remember...
Pemerson
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2012 06:00 pm
@Fido,
Sweating the small stuff can drive a body nuts. Probably everyone around that person, too. We just try, try, try. Writing it down helps one discover "what worked" and it can take a lifetime, or a season.
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Krumple
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2012 06:03 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
The Pentacle Queen wrote:

It's not my own, I think I read it on here actually. It is:
'Truth is what works.'



Why not...?

Truth is reality.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jan, 2012 11:30 pm
@Krumple,
So if it doesn't work it's not truth, and if it doesn't work it's because it's inconsistent with reality. So reality trumps truth; the latter is "what works", but it only works if it--I hate to say it--corresponds to reality. Pragmatists reject the correspondence notion of truth (cf. Rorty and Davidson videos provided earlier by Fresco). Reality is what is, truth consists of propositions about what is. Please, somebody clarify this relationship. It's too late for me to work on it.
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Procrustes
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 06:32 am

Nothing like a montage of images and sounds...
The Pentacle Queen
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 08:28 pm
@Procrustes,
I want those three minutes of my life back, procrustes Wink
The only one that wasn't a moron was the 13 year old.
JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 09:51 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Now I'm glad my computer couldn't download it.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 09:51 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
Now I'm glad my computer couldn't download it.
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Procrustes
 
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Reply Wed 4 Jan, 2012 11:45 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
I would say that is true. Wink
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nothingtodo
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 11:22 am
@The Pentacle Queen,
'Functions' not 'works'. It should clearly state. Work is not a perpetual requirement for living organisms capable of building machines, the Gods and the universe bend to your 'truth' .. I advise you, be careful.
fresco
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 12:58 pm
@nothingtodo,
Incoherent pontification ?

nothingtodo
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 03:01 pm
@fresco,
Well, we give them a chance.
Ding an Sich
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 06:49 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
What is "what works"? How do we arrive at that? Consensus? Agreement with reality? Both? Something else?
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Ding an Sich
 
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Reply Sat 15 Dec, 2012 07:27 pm
@The Pentacle Queen,
And I don't think a definition can be refuted, only rejected. This occurs when a conclusion is drawn that is contradictory or self-refuting based upon that definition.
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imans
 
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Reply Sun 16 Dec, 2012 03:14 am
@nothingtodo,
truth is never what function, this is totally exhibitin the person who is sayin that
what function is for smthg else how can it b the end then or the source or the reason or the fact constant

truth is always other way, bc more simplified out of everything
what matter is only what is never related to anything nor everything, it matters bc new or superior

what exist is beyond what not exist, this is where what exist is true

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