I've read that Italians are thinking about it, but I didn't save links.
I'm still shocked about the vote but I don't understand all the pros and cons and whats and wherefores. UK-A2K people I think of as good friends vary strongly on this business.
I'll maybe explain what it was all about for me, Osso.
Show me one European Commisioner that was elected into position by the people.They are all appointed by the member countries.
These unelected European Commissioners formulate the laws within the EU. I have no method of voting them out if I disagree with what they do.
How can you have legislation without representation?
To an American, it would be the equivalent of each State appointing a very good friend of the Governor to go along and meet with the other good friends and think up new laws.
They then pass these down to the elected bodies to approve.
The elected bodies cannot make up new laws of their own. They can only approvr or reject the new laws thought up by the group of Governors friends.
Do you remember someone called Baroness Ashton, who was the big cheese in the talks not so long ago about the Russian annexation of Crimea?
She represented the entire European Union in a very, very delicate and potentially disastrous situation, yet had NEVER been elected into any form of political office at all during her entire career.
She, basically, was a good political supporter of Tony Blair and was "rewarded" with the title of Baroness by him, and subsequently moved up the ladder to the EU gravy train in no time at all.
She quickly became not only one of the aforementioned Commissioners, but Vice President, I'll have you know.
Think about it. This totally unelected person, fast track promoted to represent hundreds of millons of people against Russian aggression, got her job by being a great friend to the sleazebag that is Tony Blair.
She was one of the people who sat for five years, formulating new EU laws and regulations.
I never voted for her. I had no mechanism to vote her out.
That, in a nutshell, is 80% of the reason why I voted brexit.
It may cause us harm, both financial and trade for the next year or so, but there is no way that I want fo be part of any organisation that is in any way democratically unnaccountable.
Once we accept that democracy takes a back seat, then the machine will have won and there is nothing we can do about it.
If we had voted to stay in, we would have seen the supreme irony of using the ultimate weapon of a democratic vote to help destroy our future democracy,
I breathed a huge sigh of relief this morning, although I know that we have a tough time ahead.
The big EU countries will not let us go easily, and will be as hard as possible in our future negotiations, because they know that if we get a good deal, then there are at least three countries who will push and push for their own referendum.
In a very recent poll, it was shown that the French are much more Eurosceptic than the Brits. If memory serves, it showed 49% of the Brits at that time wanted out, and 61% of the French.
France will never allow its people our sort of referendum. Perish the thought.
It will be interesting to :
a) Revive this thread every quarter or so, just to see if Britain has indeed fallen into the abyss and ask if we have as yet reverted to cannibalism, and
b) Compare notes with relevant economic figures from the EU, to see how they are all managing without us. One thing for certain is that it will lurch to the left.
Could be a good thing that we go, as they can then all get on and behave themselves in peace.
Just keep an eye on those unelected Commissioners though, eh?