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cause is thought , to effect and affect is physical , difference

 
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 08:17 pm

cause of things , is based on thinking upon

whereas , effect and affect is based on physical movement
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north
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 09:00 pm

inotherwords cause is a concept , by thinking

effect and affect are observational understanding of the physical movements of things
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north
 
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Reply Sun 13 Nov, 2011 09:07 pm

this discussion should be important

since " cause " and its implications are important to how we think things come about
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north
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2011 05:01 pm
inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Wed 23 Nov, 2011 08:57 am
Emote - (Clarity must prevail at all costs !)

...Thought IS interpretation...CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !

...Thought and Cause are both physical, at least as much physical physical intends to mean...
north
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 01:24 am
@Fil Albuquerque,

Quote:
inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning


Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Emote - (Clarity must prevail at all costs !)


Quote:
...Thought IS interpretation...CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !


how does thought change geological strata ?



Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2011 02:48 am
@north,
who claimed that ??? are you feeling well ???
...if I just did explain to you that thought is about interpreting reality...
...you can change the world through thought but not directly this is not a telekinesis thesis...you really must read posts carefully North...

Quote:
Sentence 1 - ...Thought IS interpretation...
Sentence 2 - CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !


Is that better now ?
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Procrustes
 
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Reply Tue 29 Nov, 2011 11:08 pm
@north,
I would define 'thinking' as movement in the brain (I heard that from some UK neuroscientist off the television and it made sense to me). So thought wouldn't be a cause per se, but something else might.
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north
 
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Reply Wed 30 Nov, 2011 09:49 pm
@north,
north wrote:

inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning


I reiterate

so that cause has nothing to do with any movement of anything , because it is a concept , a thought concept , only

no matter how deep you go into this , on anything , affect and effect explains all matter of change

Procrustes
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 03:55 am
@north,
I understand how affect is to effect, but could you please articulate this idea of cause being a concept. Can it be understood in a physical world or is it intangible?
north
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:11 pm
@Procrustes,
Procrustes wrote:

I understand how affect is to effect, but could you please articulate this idea of cause being a concept. Can it be understood in a physical world or is it intangible?


inotherwords " the cause " is just another way of describing affect > an action upon things that leads to an effect

JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:17 pm
@north,
Obviously cause (as well as effect) exists only as thoughts. Do you ever SEE a cause (or an effect)? No. You THINK it (them) in an effort to have an explanation that promotes prediction and control.
north
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 01:36 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

Obviously cause (as well as effect) exists only as thoughts. Do you ever SEE a cause (or an effect)? No. You THINK it (them) in an effort to have an explanation that promotes prediction and control.


I disagree

affect is not a thought , the affect is observationable , which leads to effect of the affect of a particular action by objects

so the affect is the replacement for what we think of as " cause "
JLNobody
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 04:40 pm
@north,
I find you SO hard to understand. What do you mean by "affect"?
north
 
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Reply Fri 2 Dec, 2011 05:04 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

I find you SO hard to understand. What do you mean by "affect"?


the consequences of the effect of two or more objects interacting , in the micro and macro

it ends up being a circular consequence really

effect , leads to affect > which leads to effect , which leads affect and so on
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 05:17 pm
@north,
And what do you mean by "effect"?
JLNobody
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 05:17 pm
@north,
And what do you mean by "effect"?
Fil Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 3 Dec, 2011 05:41 pm
@JLNobody,
...are you joking him, or are you seriously enquiring him ???
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north
 
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Reply Sun 4 Dec, 2011 06:54 pm
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:

And what do you mean by "effect"?


no problem Fil I expected , this sort of questioning

no different from what it mean't when in the phrase " cause and effect "
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