cause is thought , to effect and affect is physical , difference

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cause of things , is based on thinking upon

whereas , effect and affect is based on physical movement

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inotherwords cause is a concept , by thinking

effect and affect are observational understanding of the physical movements of things

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this discussion should be important

since " cause " and its implications are important to how we think things come about

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inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning

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Emote - (Clarity must prevail at all costs !)

...Thought IS interpretation...CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !

...Thought and Cause are both physical, at least as much physical physical intends to mean...

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@Fil Albuquerque,

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inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning

Fil Albuquerque wrote:

Emote - (Clarity must prevail at all costs !)

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...Thought IS interpretation...CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !

how does thought change geological strata ?

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@north,

who claimed that ??? are you feeling well ???
...if I just did explain to you that thought is about interpreting reality...
...you can change the world through thought but not directly this is not a telekinesis thesis...you really must read posts carefully North...

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Sentence 1 - ...Thought IS interpretation...
Sentence 2 - CAUSE, is to affect in order to effect !

Is that better now ?

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@north,

I would define 'thinking' as movement in the brain (I heard that from some UK neuroscientist off the television and it made sense to me). So thought wouldn't be a cause per se, but something else might.

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@north,

north wrote:

inotherwords cause is a concept , a thought , that has been , initially , brought on by observing and then thinking upon the affects and effects of the physical movement of objects around us and learning

I reiterate

so that cause has nothing to do with any movement of anything , because it is a concept , a thought concept , only

no matter how deep you go into this , on anything , affect and effect explains all matter of change

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@north,

I understand how affect is to effect, but could you please articulate this idea of cause being a concept. Can it be understood in a physical world or is it intangible?

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@Procrustes,

Procrustes wrote:

I understand how affect is to effect, but could you please articulate this idea of cause being a concept. Can it be understood in a physical world or is it intangible?

inotherwords " the cause " is just another way of describing affect > an action upon things that leads to an effect

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@north,

Obviously cause (as well as effect) exists only as thoughts. Do you ever SEE a cause (or an effect)? No. You THINK it (them) in an effort to have an explanation that promotes prediction and control.

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

Obviously cause (as well as effect) exists only as thoughts. Do you ever SEE a cause (or an effect)? No. You THINK it (them) in an effort to have an explanation that promotes prediction and control.

I disagree

affect is not a thought , the affect is observationable , which leads to effect of the affect of a particular action by objects

so the affect is the replacement for what we think of as " cause "

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@north,

I find you SO hard to understand. What do you mean by "affect"?

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@JLNobody,

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I find you SO hard to understand. What do you mean by "affect"?

the consequences of the effect of two or more objects interacting , in the micro and macro

it ends up being a circular consequence really

effect , leads to affect > which leads to effect , which leads affect and so on

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@north,

And what do you mean by "effect"?

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@north,

And what do you mean by "effect"?

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@JLNobody,

...are you joking him, or are you seriously enquiring him ???

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@JLNobody,

JLNobody wrote:

And what do you mean by "effect"?

no problem Fil I expected , this sort of questioning

no different from what it mean't when in the phrase " cause and effect "

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