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Why do you suppose Jesus never condemned slavery?

 
 
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sat 3 Aug, 2013 07:39 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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The notion of "atheist" has been in existence since ancient Greek times…and there is little reason to suppose it did not predate that period.


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Ancient Greek is the form of the Greek language used during the periods of time spanning the c. 9th – 6th century BC,


I will be honest and admit that I was unaware of that.

The notion yes but the word?

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The word atheist has been used since gods first came into being.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 02:48 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

Modern, western philosophical thought considers atheism to mean non-belief in the Christian God.


Which, of course, means that "modern, western philosphical thought" considers all babies and toddlers too young to have "belief" in the Christian god...to be atheists.

Wow. What a bunch of clods.

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I assume the reason to be that any other definition opens the door to all sorts of insignificant wittering which can only be explained from a materialist point of view by the idea that the witterer receives sensual pleasure from the sound, or other manifestations, of his or her own expressions.


Actually, the reason some of us disagree is because the other definition allows for the absurdity of classifying babies as atheists on a whim.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 02:50 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

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The thread is not fatuous other than in the head of someone who has problems with the issue.


Crude forms of patting oneself on the back, such as that play-pen nonsense, do nothing, I repeat--nothing--as in **** all- to prove that the question we have been asked is not only not fatuous but doesn't inhabit the region where asymptotic fatuity thrives and breeds.

Answer the argument eh? Man up. Blurting is for schoolgirls.


Another fruity piece of fluff. Did you wear a boa while writing it?

Gotta wonder why a genius like you chooses what you consider to be a fatuous thread to spend so much time. Wink
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 02:52 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:

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The notion of "atheist" has been in existence since ancient Greek times…and there is little reason to suppose it did not predate that period.


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Ancient Greek is the form of the Greek language used during the periods of time spanning the c. 9th – 6th century BC,


I will be honest and admit that I was unaware of that.

The notion yes but the word?

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The word atheist has been used since gods first came into being.




I considered what you wrote...and made the change that apparently you considered important. Why not go with what I wrote?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 06:35 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Actually, the reason some of us disagree is because the other definition allows for the absurdity of classifying babies as atheists on a whim.


Now you are being silly for the sake of it. You missed out the birds and the bees. (It must be your sexual hangups). Modern western philosophical thought doesn't consider them atheists either.

I was obviously speaking (oops--I was typing) of "in house" discourse which it is evident you are on the outside of. I was referring to Prof. Mavrodes's short article on the subject in which he says that the atheist argument is directed against the existence of the Christian God. As yours are.
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spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 06:43 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Another fruity piece of fluff. Did you wear a boa while writing it?


Odd how that fatuous style of discourse comes from your side and not from mine. I was asserted to be in a bra the other day. Are directoire knickers (slightly foxed) outside of you twee comfort zone?

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Gotta wonder why a genius like you chooses what you consider to be a fatuous thread to spend so much time.


I explained that already. The diving board. Perhaps it is a sign of you not reading anything with care. A sure way of becoming confused.

Your position stems from your first finger in the fruit pie and has been stuck in that groove ever since.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 08:59 am
@Frank Apisa,
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I considered what you wrote...and made the change that apparently you considered important. Why not go with what I wrote?


I just thought that it was weird that you did not come out and state that you made a simple mistake. Cool
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 12:38 pm
@spendius,
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I was asserted to be in a bra the other day. Are directoire knickers (slightly foxed) outside of you twee comfort zone?


Why were you in a bra spendius? do you have large man titties?
spendius
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 01:39 pm
@reasoning logic,
Don't go getting over-excited at this stage rl. I'm no good.

If I had tits I'd never get out of bed.
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neologist
 
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Reply Sun 4 Aug, 2013 11:38 pm
What in the heck is this thread coming to?
FRANK! See what you've started!
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 09:21 am
@neologist,
What Apisa has been coming to in his glory days is the reason for the existence of the thread.

Nobody would be daft enough to single out Jesus for not condemning slavery out of the multitude of those who have also failed in that respect if it wasn't for the fact that He was the founder of Christianity which severely censures certain infractions of its code of sexual manners and good taste which it can be readily presumed Apisa has experience of.

There is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery anyway.

Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:25 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

What Apisa has been coming to in his glory days is the reason for the existence of the thread.

Nobody would be daft enough to single out Jesus for not condemning slavery out of the multitude of those who have also failed in that respect if it wasn't for the fact that He was the founder of Christianity which severely censures certain infractions of its code of sexual manners and good taste which it can be readily presumed Apisa has experience of.

There is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery anyway.




There absolutely is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery. He may have...and the people who recorded what he thought was important may have left out the fact that he did.

Very early on this was discussed...and I modified the question to: Why, if Jesus did condemn slavery, did the people who recorded what he thought was important not mention that he did.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 11:27 am
@Frank Apisa,
Spendius wrote:

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Nobody would be daft enough to single out Jesus for not condemning slavery out of the multitude of those who have also failed in that respect if it wasn't for the fact that He was the founder of Christianity...


Jesus was not the founder of Christianity.

Using daft that way is so fruity.

I am not interested in why John Smith of some year back did not condemn slavery...but I am interested in why Jesus (or the people who recorded what he thought) did not.
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 12:24 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
. . . Very early on this was discussed...and I modified the question to: Why, if Jesus did condemn slavery, did the people who recorded what he thought was important not mention that he did.
Yeah.
But that's been answered, Frank.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 12:29 pm
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
. . . Very early on this was discussed...and I modified the question to: Why, if Jesus did condemn slavery, did the people who recorded what he thought was important not mention that he did.
Yeah.
But that's been answered, Frank.


Apparently Spendius was not conscious when it was.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 01:12 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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Apparently Spendius was not conscious when it was.


It was me who answered it.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 01:47 pm
@spendius,
spendius wrote:

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Apparently Spendius was not conscious when it was.


It was me who answered it.


I doubt that seriously...in fact, I doubt it actually was answered.

But if it was...and if you remember discussing it the MANY TIMES it was discussed, why on Earth would you write "There is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery anyway? "

spendius
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 03:29 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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I doubt that seriously...in fact, I doubt it actually was answered.


It is not possible for it to be answered to your satisfaction. You have too much emotional energy invested. You're never going to admit that only a complete fool who grossly underestimates the intelligence of his audience would ask such a fatuous question.

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But if it was...and if you remember discussing it the MANY TIMES it was discussed, why on Earth would you write "There is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery anyway? "


I probably wrote that because there is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 04:33 pm
@spendius,
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spendius wrote:

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I doubt that seriously...in fact, I doubt it actually was answered.


It is not possible for it to be answered to your satisfaction. You have too much emotional energy invested. You're never going to admit that only a complete fool who grossly underestimates the intelligence of his audience would ask such a fatuous question.


If it is such a fatuous question...why do you spend so much time dealing with it? Are you a fool?



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But if it was...and if you remember discussing it the MANY TIMES it was discussed, why on Earth would you write "There is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery anyway? "


I probably wrote that because there is no proof that Jesus didn't condemn slavery.
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I have written dozens of times that there is no proof that Jesus did not condemn slavery. I’ve even acknowledged that there may never have been a single individual Jesus…that the Jesus story may be a compilation of various people’s philosophies.

And I certainly have indicated that the question can be changed.

http://able2know.org/topic/17906-4#post-532450 (This was back 10 years ago in this thread.)
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 5 Aug, 2013 05:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
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If it is such a fatuous question...why do you spend so much time dealing with it? Are you a fool?


Possibly. I deal with the question on behalf of those who might wish to avoid being led up the garden path by absurd over-simplifications which have no other intention than that of trying to rationalise and render respectable various applications of the underpants down condition without any reference to the possibility of them being adopted by everybody after them being so strenuously recommended by yourself.

 

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