Why do you suppose Jesus never condemned slavery?

What's even worse is reading another person's validation of slavery with such enthusiasm. These are likely the same people who refuse to wear masks because it impedes their God-given right to be free. Morbidly sad.

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@glitterbag,

How many young people have sold themselves into years of slavery, when they borrowed the money to buy a house, and now that the interest rates are rising, they can add many more years to their forced slavery.

BTW, I am a diabetic and over 80 years old, who has suffered a stroke a few years back, and was warned not to be vaccinated, and take the risk of developing blood clots, and I am still kicking.

Unlike many of the other poor old buggers, with medical conditions who were forced into receiving the Vacc and have since died from Covid.

Even the double vaccinated who have received the first of their many to come booster injections, and who can still catch and spread the disease are not wearing masks over here in Aus old mate.

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@glitterbag,

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These are likely the same people who refuse to wear masks because it impedes their God-given right to be free.

That is correct. Let's review what wears masks.

https://ak4.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/4826744/thumb/11.jpg?i10c=img.resize(height:160)

Criminals (who will be arrested and put in prison)

https://www.jpost.com/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=327493&w=898&h=628p

Terrorists (who are enslaved by ideology and/or who will be arrested and put in prison)

https://www.thesprucepets.com/thmb/r-liLrPhAk622WMZeeWJ0SwXV1M=/2124x1411/filters:fill(auto,1)/GettyImages-157637111-c4f9f1c6dc814f77bd3ce97c9546c07a.jpg

Muzzled dogs (who are not allowed even to bark in some cases)

https://i.cbc.ca/1.3231717.1442490885!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/niqab-ruling.jpg

Muslim women (who can have acid poured on them if they refuse to obey)

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W8OrbaCtNGk/maxresdefault.jpg

Deep State Thugs (faceless goons completely subservient to those in charge of them)

...What do all of these have in common?

They have all have either given up their freedom, or are about to.

Masks are chains on the face. They prevent you from even breathing properly. They prevent you from breathing fresh air. And they transform your face from the Image of God, a free citizen... into a farm animal.

https://www.fashiongonerogue.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Free-People-January-2016-Catalog04.jpg

Free person (it even looks like these two women are into each other, and allowed to love one another)

https://hpcattlesupply.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Weaver-grazing-muzzle.jpg

Farm animal (not allowed to even eat)

@Anointed, I can say from experience that masks do not work. Our family's friends were the first to get COVID. They followed all the rules and dutifully wore masks. Developed respiratory issues.

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How sad, the best medical minds in the country encouraged people to engage in risky behaviour. Don't trust people with education and lengthy amounts of experience, trust the morons who print this silly crap like a bunch of pissy 10 year olds.

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@The Anointed,

Quote you: "BTW, I am a diabetic and over 80 years old, who has suffered a stroke a few years back, and was warned not to be vaccinated, and take the risk of developing blood clots, and I am still kicking."

Are you suffering under the impression that you are the oldest member on this forum? If you had half a clue how elderly the rest of us are, what our medical conditions are, what we have suffered thru, what we put up with, what sacrifices we have made, how many tragic losses we have had to deal with you would wither with embarrassment. Oh but not you, in your fevered imagination, only you have lived life, suffered losses, paid bills, almost grown up, raised children...........the stuff only the stalwart can endure. Here's a news flash, you are not dealing with a bunch of 40-year old somethings. You want to carp and bitch about how tough life is, and blame nonsense for the reasons life is tough.....talk a closer look at yourself and your personal shortcomings for a better explanation. There are no sissies on this forum, so stop trying to compete to become Number 1 softy sissy.

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@glitterbag,

How sad it is, to think that there are people who believe that the best medical minds of every age of mankind, with their education and lengthy amounts of experience could never have been wrong. How foolish and blind are they?

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@bulmabriefs144,

Dearheart, we are not searching for someone with the biggest broken heart. I'm sure God still loves you.

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@The Anointed,

You don't trust people, you trust ugly banners of despair.....how sad is that?

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@glitterbag,

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You don't trust people, you trust ugly banners of despair.....how sad is that?

And you know me, do you? You foolish. foolish judgmental woman.

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@Frank Apisa,

My apologies Frank, I didn't mean to disrupt your topic............I just got overwhelmed by the massive dumb-ass nonsense being perpetuated by a few special folks......lost my patience. Sorry, again.

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@The Anointed,

The actual best medical minds spoke up against masks.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/oregon-doctor-staff-refuse-wear-masks-during-pandemic-calling-covid-n1249737
They were told to shut up or outright forcibly stripped of credentials.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/4/anti-mask-doctors-medical-license-suspended/

Btw, the Oregon doctor is right. Coronavirus is a common cold.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2a2362faf303e0fda7fb2fe1ba9ebad2

@glitterbag if you don't want me to call you "Snookums" or something don't use pet nicknames for me, Poopykins.

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@NealNealNeal,

NealNealNeal wrote:

Jesus came to die for the sins of each individual. He did not come as a social reformer. He came to change the life of the individual. He made peace possible between God and the individual. He made it possible for a person to have a relationship with God.
Throughout history there has been a wide difference in what "slavery" is. Some "slaves" were like employees are today.

The question is: Why do you suppose Jesus did not condemn slavery?

This is a 20 year old thread that Bulma brought back to life to do...well, I have no idea of what he, or you, are trying to do.

Jesus does not condemn slavery. I figure it must be because the god he worshiped...AND THE GOD YOU WORSHIP...says there is nothing wrong with slavery.

Now, if you have some other ideas...or if you think that idea is wrong, discuss them.

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@bulmabriefs144,

bulmabriefs144 wrote:

That's not the bottom line.

The bottom line is that Moses (or Akhnaten) fled Egypt with slaves, worshiping one God. This God visited misfortune on Egypt. The Egyptian historical records, though garbled a bit from the Hebrew account, generally note this point.

Your god did not "(visit) misfortune on Egypt." You god slaughtered a bunch of kids in Egypt, much like various nut-cases have slaughtered bunches of kids here in the United States. If your god were a human today, he would be housed
(properly) in the way Hannibal Lecter is housed in the movie, Silence of the Lambs.

And as I said, modern scholars suggest that the ancient Hebrews were not held as slaves in Egypt (they had more than enough manpower already) and did not "escape captivity." They were asked to leave.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

It's incredibly sad to read anyone's comments that slavery was like "normal employment" at times in the world's history. Suffocatingly sad.

Incredible that they still try this nonsense.

Husband could be sold away from wife...children from parents. And they think it was like normal employment.

Suffocatingly sad barely covers it.

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@glitterbag,

glitterbag wrote:

My apologies Frank, I didn't mean to disrupt your topic............I just got overwhelmed by the massive dumb-ass nonsense being perpetuated by a few special folks......lost my patience. Sorry, again.

Great to hear your comments, GB. These pathetic people need the schooling. Glad you are giving it!

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Classical slavery was not the same as that practiced during the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries.

It wasn't racist, people became slaves after wars, invasions rebellions etc.

The slaves looked the same as the owners, and some individual slaves could wield great power, the Roman Emperor's slaves had enormous influence.

I'm not saying it was good, most slaves were put to work in the fields, mines etc. It was a hard existence.

The treatment of black slaves in the 17th C+ was awful. Most people transported to the plantations in America and the Caribbean were worked to death, life expectancy was little more than three years.

That was one of the reasons it was thought that ending the slave trade would end slavery.

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@Frank Apisa,

Whoa, it's twenty years old?

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.623919252.8052/bg,f8f8f8-flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f8f8f8.u2.jpg

Hurrah.

God does condemn slavery, and we know this because those who follow God condemn slavery. That even a king who chronically disobeyed God knew that the surest way to please him was to free the slaves proves that God was very obviously against slavery, and all of the Jews understood this. I dunno why you have trouble with it.

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@izzythepush,

Right. Actually, the slave trade has gone on under the auspices of illegal immigration.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_sLf12KoLAU/WHWbjFHB2XI/AAAAAAAAACA/j2BXiJ01Im4EWYHDR5kyvgp3xdAoobB8ACLcB/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/DISGUISED.jpg

Human trafficking is illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is slavery.

God opposes illegal immigration. All conservatives know this. So God opposes slavery.

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@bulmabriefs144,

bulmabriefs144 wrote:

Whoa, it's twenty years old?

Hurrah.

God does condemn slavery, and we know this because those who follow God condemn slavery. That even a king who chronically disobeyed God knew that the surest way to please him was to free the slaves proves that God was very obviously against slavery, and all of the Jews understood this. I dunno why you have trouble with it.

Here is what your god has to say about slavery:

"Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you BUY them from among the neighboring nations. You may also BUY them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves YOU MAY OWN AS CHATTELS, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, MAKING THEM PERPETUAL SLAVES. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen." Leviticus 25:44ff

If you want to interpret that as the god condemning slavery, you are free to do so. I am delighted you are doing it here. I copy that kind of **** and show it to people who do not engage in Internet discussion, so they can see how ridiculous some participants are.

You are one of my favorite jokes.

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@Frank Apisa,

This is the third time you've quoted this.

But you've missed a major point.

The first five books were written by Moses. Or are you going to tell me that they are wriiten by God? Because if you say that, you've crossed into fundie territory, and I have to say that yourfaith in biblical inerrancy is more than mine.

I however believe that God inspired the Bible, but if he gave any commands at all, it was the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule.

So unless you want to tell me that you believe that you can't wear blended fabrics, can't eat pork, and have to slice your foreskin, I'm afraid what Jesus means that he did not come to abolish the law and the prophets but to fulfill them is thar these Mosaic laws are about as relevant as an OCD's laws about washing their hands 12 times an hour. As in, not very.

Moses is a racist cuntbag. That doesn't mean God told him to say this, only that Moses told everyone that God gave this law.

I imagine what God really said was, "I'm gonna prepare a Redeemer someday(Jesus), so give them as many laws as possible, so that they cannot possibly measure up." And there are over 600 laws, and vast amounts of Talmudic literature telling us how each law is interpreted). Moses wrote these laws, God understood that since we have mortal lifespans, it doesn't actually matter. We free ourselves from one slavery only to ve enslaved again by sin.

So, are you prepared to give up bacon?

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Why do you suppose Jesus never condemned slavery?

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