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How is Hegel's master-slave dialectic different from Marx's discussion of class struggle?

 
 
Satyam
 
Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2011 12:19 pm
How does marx's formulation of the concept of struggle differ from what Hegel discusses in the Master-slave dialectics in its book phenomenology of spirit?
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ChuckV
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2012 04:31 am
@Satyam,
I have to qualify this answer, I know very little about Marx at all. That being said I have read Hegel's Lordship and Bondage from the Phenomenology of Spirit pretty thoroughly. Call to mind the first line of chapter 1 of The Communist Manifesto: "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles." To give a crude characterization of Hegel's view that might be comparable with this quote: "The history of all hitherto existing society is Geist's struggle for freedom." Hegel's master-slave dialectic is unique from Marx's class struggles in that Hegel thinks history fundamentally has a single, (if I may say so) "schizophrenic" protagonist, "Geist," or 'Mind'/'Spirit' (Consciousness). As Hegel puts it Geist is "The 'I' that is a 'We' and the 'We' that is an 'I'" The master-slave dialectic as it originally appears in Hegel's Phenomenology is one where Geist encounters itself in the external world as an 'other being'. There,we see Hegel present the Master-slave dialectic as a struggle between two individuals who, unbeknownst to themselves, are actually the same thing, Geist. Hegel doesn't much emphasize the following point, but nevertheless; it's clear that relations of mastership and servitude can be instantiated between any number of persons, groups, etc. I think it likely that the difference between the discussions of Marx and Hegel you mention, is emphasis. Hegel's discussion seems more focused upon master-slave relations on a person-to-person level, (or at the very least is a discussion in which he takes such a mode of discussion to be a more adequate way of characterizing history.) Marx's discussion seems to be more focused on similar such relations on a class-to-class level, (or at the very least is a discussion in which he takes such a mode of discussion to be a more adequate way of characterizing history.)
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Razzleg
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2012 04:54 am
@Satyam,
Oi, i generally hate answering people's homework questions for them but: it reverses it, Marx makes Hegel's dynamic a social question rather than a universal (spiritual)/subjective one and transposes the relative historical value of the producer's relationship with the consumer.
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