@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Are you aware that there are different time zones. I can't respond when I'm asleep. Islamic extremism is a big problem, something we're all aware of. You are in complete denial about the problems of far right extremists though. They is a result of your right wing media whipping up the problem of Islamic terrorism out of all proportion. Narrow minded bigots like Gonga just transfer their hate from Blacks to Moslems. Look around you Finnbar, you'll see your fellow travellers are KKK like the docker's omelette. Do you really want to be associated with such vermin?
Which is it izzy?
Islamic extremisim is a big problem or the US "right wing media" has whipped up Islamic terrorisim "out of all proportion?"
What are its proper proportions, and please explain to me how they are of equal or less dimension than the "problems of far right extremists."
When was the last event, similar to the massacre in Norway, due to far right extremists?
How does the frequency of Islamist terrorist attacks compare to that of far right extremist attacks?
How many people, over the last 10 years, in the US, UK, Spain, Bali, India, Denmark, Italy and Holland (or for that matter the whole world) been injured or killed by Islamist terrorists, and how many by far right extremists?
Have you ever made the argument that the West has, to one extent or another, brought the violent wrath of Muslim extremists on its own head because of its behaviors? If so, I don't know how you can share Brooker's disdain for anyone who might have said "Yes, Brievik's actions were terrible but..."
Individually, there is no scale that can tell us that Brievik was any more or less evil and insane that Atta simply because of the source of their motivation. A madman who slaughters people because he believes it is what God wishes is no more or less evil than one who does do because he thinks members of a political party have betrayed his country.
There are, however, very clear ways to measure the scope of the threat posed by individuals who share the motivation of Brievik or Atta.
Bees and wasps annually kill more than 50 times the number of people killed by sharks. Clearly, bees and wasps present a greater threat to humans than sharks. You are very much like the person who, because he loaths and fears sharks more than he does bees and wasps, considers the former the greater threat.
I don't, at all, deny that far right extremists can be a deadly threat to their fellow humans. Certainly they can, just as far left extremists can be. The fact of the matter, though, is that Islamist extremists present a greater threat to the world than any other extremist group, and when there is a terribly violent tragedy like the one that ocurred in Norway, it's a damned good bet that Islamists were behind it.
When you bet on the favorite you will not always win, but there are very really reasons they are the favorites.
What I have a real problem with are folks like you who either because of a misguided sympathy for Islamists or an intense loathing for those on the far right insist upon equating the actual threat presented by the two groups.
I have a bigger problem with the hypocrisy that is expressed in your condemnation of those who you feel are trying to blame all Muslims for the acts of Muslim extremists while you insist that everyone you consider to be right wing (even me for example) are complicit in the violent acts of right wing extremists.
And you have the nerve to condemn and lecture anyone for spewing or preaching hatred while you swim in it.
But, I understand izzy, the right wing deserves the hatred of people like you who know what is right and what is wrong.