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Global Morality Database

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 05:23 pm
@contrex,
Who needs evidence when you've got some bloke down the pub?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 05:36 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Yeah I'm sure you're right. Nobody notices the extreme amount of gun crime because they cook the books.
English newspapers noticed.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 05:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I would have more respect if you were honest. If you admitted that the high incidence of gun crime in America was a price worth paying so that you can have a gun. Over here we think that price is too high.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 05:58 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
I would have more respect if you were honest.
I have contempt for your respect.




izzythepush wrote:
If you admitted that the high incidence of gun crime in America was a price worth paying
so that you can have a gun. Over here we think that price is too high.
I live in a free country; u don 't.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 06:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Again, the freedom to die from a treatable illness, due to inadequate medical insurance, is a freedom you can keep.
thack45
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 06:08 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I'd rather have the freedom not to be shot by the mentally ill with automatic weapons.
See now, here in the States, the concern is not even about being shot by the mentally ill. Odds are much better that one would be shot by the mentally vacant.
contrex
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jul, 2011 11:55 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I have contempt for your respect.


See? a tosspot.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 12:50 am
@thack45,
izzythepush wrote:
I'd rather have the freedom not to be shot by the mentally ill with automatic weapons.
thack45 wrote:
See now, here in the States, the concern is not even about being shot by the mentally ill.
Odds are much better that one would be shot by the mentally vacant.
How did u calculate those "odds" ?

I 'm an old man; most of my life is in the past.
As I look back on it, I know in retrospect that
for years and for decades, I did not need the
defensive revolver that I carried,
but when I eventually needed it,
I had it and it served me very well.

If I were able to go back in time,
there are mistakes that I 'd love to change,
but I 'd keep my revolvers close at hand.
From the day that I took possession
of the first one, I felt a sense of tranquility.
I worked out with it and was a fairly decent shot.

I love my collections of kaleidoscopes, gold coins, and guns. I still feel serene.

I also keep jacks in the trunks of my cars
and a fire extinguisher at home.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 12:59 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Again, the freedom to die from a treatable illness,
due to inadequate medical insurance, is a freedom you can keep.
I 'd rather live in a free country.
Freedom is the most important consideration to me; death is preferable to its loss.
Since we threw the English out of here (note that I am of English descent)
sovereignty has been in the citizens, not in the hireling limited government that we established.





David
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 01:48 am
@OmSigDAVID,
It probably makes up for your profound feelings of inadequacy.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 04:50 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
It probably makes up for your profound feelings of inadequacy.
In one sense, that 's true.
I was alone a lot when I was 8.
For a few weeks, I remained unarmed.
Regardless of the fact that I lived in a very safe neighborhood
(where in the 5 years that I resided there, the police NEVER
came with lights n sirens), I felt ill-at-ease, wondering how
I 'd defend the place against burglary, if the need arose.
The best I had was a butcher knife.

In that sense, in terms of self defense or home defense, I felt *inadequate* as u put it,
until I began my gun collection. I thereafter remained in a state of tranquility.
In addition to my revolver, for home defense, I also had a .30 caliber M 1 Carbine
with fully loaded 30 round magazines.

Obviously, I coud not drag THAT around all over the place,
but it added to my serenity at home.

Nearly all of my neighbors had admirable gun collections
and thay were all very willing to apply them to good purpose,
if a predatory emergency ever arose.
The lives of burglars woud have been short.
Potential burglars knew that everyone was armed to the teeth.

I enjoyed Arizona, except for its blast-furnace like heat.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 05:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
The greatest freedom is freedom from fear. You seem very paranoid to me.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 05:53 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
The greatest freedom is freedom from fear.
You seem very paranoid to me.
That is your own ideologically distorted perception.
As I have said, I live in serenity.
I fear nothing.





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 06:38 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

izzythepush wrote:
The greatest freedom is freedom from fear.
You seem very paranoid to me.
That is your own ideologically distorted perception.
As I have said, I live in serenity.
I fear nothing.





David


I think you know a bit more about ideological distortion than I do. Your posts could could be called many things, but serene is not one of them.

'A man who knows no fear isn't brave.' Ancient Persian proverb.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 10:19 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
The greatest freedom is freedom from fear.
You seem very paranoid to me.
OmSigDAVID wrote:
That is your own ideologically distorted perception.
As I have said, I live in serenity.
I fear nothing.





David
izzythepush wrote:
I think you know a bit more about ideological distortion than I do.
Your posts could could be called many things, but serene is not one of them.
I want to live in a well-armed society. I already have more guns than I need for personal security.
I want my fellow citizens to arm themselves in greater proportions.
In my opinion, that will tend to generate a spirit of Individualism,
degrading collectivism and degrading authoritarianism.
When I see the news on TV, I wish that victims of predatory violence
had been better armed than the perpetrators, or that someone who WAS
better armed had rescued them.
When I see a fictional movie including predatory violence,
again I wish that the victims had been well armed.
Every predatory event is a contest of power,
an assertion of dominance by the predator. I support the victims.
I want the victims to have predominating power.





In regard to your attribution of my being "paranoid"
let the record indicate that for the full duration of my life
I have been clearly aware that I have never had any personal enemies,
nor has anyone ever stalked me, nor paid any attention to my personal life.
I have never considered myself to be persecuted
nor have I considered myself to be extraordinary.




izzythepush wrote:
'A man who knows no fear isn't brave.' Ancient Persian proverb.
I don 't claim to be brave, but I have NO fear of anything. By nature, I 'm an optimist.
(However, I was feeling fearless and optimistic
when I was taken under fire some years ago, regardless.)





David
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jul, 2011 11:11 am
All of this bickering! Will somebody please think of the Global Morality Database?! Crying or Very sad
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