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An old cup..

 
 
Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 12:56 pm
I found this cup when I was digging a penny. I finally got a metal detector and was out using it for the first time. FM made a good post about what to look for and what was what when I asked about it a month ago and that got me into SUPER geek mode.. Smile I spent DAYS hunting around...Armed with that post, I bought one and so far so good.
Penny was too new, so bah on that ... but YAY , I can understand my detector enough to know what it was when it beeped.


but this? was just an inch or two away and I only saw a tiny piece of it. I almost ignored it..

I took a few shots to try to catch all the points that make me think this is a vintage, if not antique piece. it has - Straw threads, Uneven mold lines, different wear patterns on the bottom, a lip that is not perfectly smooth, no bubbles, a few specs of dirt , and.. well.. frankly, it was found in an area that is around 1800-1880.. Very Happy
The glass has a rose tint to it, though I think if I completely washed it, that MIGHT not be so visible.. a rainbow hue when tilted just right and it does not have the bell ring of the lead glass... so at that point I am a bit stumped.

The glass maker moniker is really odd too. It is an 8 point star like this pattern here - http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/eight-pointed-star-quilt-block-1.jpg
I only got one photo where you can sort of see that pattern. I can try to take more if that helps.


But I cant find that moniker anywhere? No glass maker that I can find through my usual places has anything even remotely like that.
Im stumped. Smile

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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 01:08 pm
@shewolfnm,
Do you have an auction house nearby? Or a local university with a relevant research department? Or how about a local history museum or society?

Someone with a friendly, inquisitive, and helpful puzzle solver to help guide your understanding of this new treasure! Smile
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 01:25 pm
not that i know of off the top of my head..
But this is Austin, I am sure there is one some where..
an antique store might help too
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Reyn
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 03:40 pm
@shewolfnm,
shewolfnm wrote:

I found this cup when I was digging a penny. I finally got a metal detector and was out using it for the first time. ...

I used to use a metal detector many years ago and was somewhat successful.

In what sort of locations are you looking?

If your looking in parks, you have to be quite careful you dig up cautiously and replace any disturbed sod.

One suggestion (for parks): Use a thin, blunt probe when looking for coins before digging, and then make a half circle cut in sod (with a really small garden trowel) and fold back carefully.
roger
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Reply Sat 16 Jul, 2011 04:02 pm
@shewolfnm,
Looks kind of like what they call Depression Glass, though I don't recognize the pattern. The stuff used to be given away as sales promotions, and maybe offered as prizes at carnivals.

Another good source of information could be flea markets. There used to be a lot of odd pieces turning up, though I think it's gotten harder to find in the past several decades.
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 02:59 pm
@roger,
i did a search the other day on basic depression glass paterns.
I see the resemblance, and I bet you are right.
There are things about it that, point to a mass production mold, and not one that would have been very pricey.
The light pink tint is also right in line with common depression glass....BUT.. how this stuff feels? is not the same. I have a few that my grandmother had. It is an entirely different make of glass.
This one is VERY heavy, sort of like a real lead crystal jar..

but then again, you may be right on target. I still can not find that star on the bottom any where either.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 03:02 pm
@Reyn,
Reyn wrote:


In what sort of locations are you looking?




right now, abandoned farm houses. I am working on a book project with the finds.
But in general? I dont yet know what it is I really want to focus on finding. I know I can search anywhere, but you get better results if you go after.. just one thing ..if that makes sense.

I have tried the parks, and a soccer field. I take with me a trowel and some gloves. If I can not find it by simply going only as deep as the tiny trowel, for now.. I just pass it by. Im still learning this machine so I dont want to make big pock marks all over a park.

but..? its realllly exciting Smile
Reyn
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:09 pm
@shewolfnm,
shewolfnm wrote:
right now, abandoned farm houses.

Great idea! You might have a chance at some good finds. I understand that it wasn't too unusual for folks to bury money in glass jars with metal lids.

In regards to finding stuff in sensitive areas, that's why I highly recommend probing with the thin item, perhaps a really skinny long screwdriver with the end dulled.

Among my best finds was a 1945 50 cent piece (Cdn) and a gold religious necklace (chain missing).

It can be quite relaxing. Time just disappears.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:21 pm
@shewolfnm,
It looks like a cup from a punch set. Without holding myself, my guess would be 1940's to 1960's - based on the thickness of the glass. The glass in those sets is very heavy - but not the same kind of handfeel as lead crystal.

something along this line

http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/vintage-cut-glass-punch-bowl-set-with-glasses

there's a slightly finer-looking (not finer quality) set on this page

http://www.saraharvey.co.uk/1940.html

they used to show up in Goodwill, Value Village etc pretty regularly up here in the 1980's and 90's.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 08:26 pm
@ehBeth,
if you google depression glass punch cup you'll so many variations on a theme ... it's really quite wonderful

http://www.ioffer.com/i/EAPG-McKee-Glass-THE-CONCORD-Punch-Bowl-set-9-Cups-189601652



the mismatch at the mold lines is one of the things that makes me suspect that it's 20th century
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 11:42 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

The glass in those sets is very heavy - but not the same kind of handfeel as lead crystal.


yeah. that is exactly how I describe it. It isnt lead crystal, but it is heavy like you would expect lead crystal to be. And definitely heavier then any common glass I have felt.

I still see those pieces in goodwill every now and then. they look like the glass cups and bowls that people use for soap or potpourri in bathrooms and such.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jul, 2011 11:44 pm
@Reyn,
Reyn wrote:

shewolfnm wrote:
right now, abandoned farm houses.

Great idea! You might have a chance at some good finds. I understand that it wasn't too unusual for folks to bury money in glass jars with metal lids.

In regards to finding stuff in sensitive areas, that's why I highly recommend probing with the thin item, perhaps a really skinny long screwdriver with the end dulled.

Among my best finds was a 1945 50 cent piece (Cdn) and a gold religious necklace (chain missing).

It can be quite relaxing. Time just disappears.


So far the most interesting find is this cup. It will be something that I will put on the wall with all my other stuff :0)

I never thought of using a screw driver, but after hours of soccer fields..i absolutely get why you suggest that. I will add that to my bag !
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