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Citizen arrested for video taping from front yard

 
 
RexRed
 
Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 01:11 am
Police are public servants and the public has a right to know. I think this is police harassment. Would he have preferred that she used a hidden camera and not have informed him she was recording? Did he arrest her for her safety or his own?

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/06/22/6920188-citizen-arrested-for-videotaping-police-from-front-yard
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 01:12 am
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oolongteasup
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 01:59 am
@RexRed,
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 11:00 am
@oolongteasup,
oolongteasup wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M&feature=player_detailpage[/youtube]


Not sure I liked that. ...and, Obama is not a hypocrite.

There are a lot of good People from all ethnic backgrounds in America and we have a lot to be proud of too. If we can just clean up the oceans and preserve life for future generations we will do okay.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 11:43 am
@RexRed,
Do you remember years back a woman named Susan Wilson? She was from Monroe, Louisiana, a town not far from me. Her neighbor planted cameras in her house, in his pool house, etc., and filmed people without them knowing it. She reported this man and he barely got a slap on the wrist. Laws concerning the videotaping of others are not clearly enough defined in my opinion. But hopefully, they have gotten better since Susan Wilson's problems:

http://fliiby.com/file/339039/c8jg5ze91y.html

I surely do not see a thing wrong with videotaping the police from the confines of your own yard.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 11:50 am
@RexRed,
She was ordered to go inside her home, it might be thought it was done for her own safety (many traffic stops turn violent, including with gunfire).

According to the links, she was asked twice.

According to the links, she is 'no stranger to police' and has had past trouble. There''s even mention by a city council member there that has him state "It did not look well for us in terms of how we police and what it is we're attempting to accomplish"
however he also states that the woman "could have diffused this latest incident by complying with the officers order. Adding "Typically, I tell people when the police give you an order, that your should follow it, even if you don't like it. We have a process to make complaints..."

If the woman had been injured or killed during this incident, and it was revealed the police hadn't asked her to go inside (and she was filming it so it would have become clear in time) then they'd be cursed at and held up as not doing their jobs correctly.



This is all the fault of George Eastman and others that created cameras, film and other evil devices which record what is happening.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2011 12:18 pm
@Sturgis,
Sturgis wrote:

She was ordered to go inside her home, it might be thought it was done for her own safety (many traffic stops turn violent, including with gunfire).

According to the links, she was asked twice.

According to the links, she is 'no stranger to police' and has had past trouble. There''s even mention by a city council member there that has him state "It did not look well for us in terms of how we police and what it is we're attempting to accomplish"
however he also states that the woman "could have diffused this latest incident by complying with the officers order. Adding "Typically, I tell people when the police give you an order, that your should follow it, even if you don't like it. We have a process to make complaints..."

If the woman had been injured or killed during this incident, and it was revealed the police hadn't asked her to go inside (and she was filming it so it would have become clear in time) then they'd be cursed at and held up as not doing their jobs correctly.



This is all the fault of George Eastman and others that created cameras, film and other evil devices which record what is happening.

Once she stepped back onto her own private property it would seem the police officer would have needed a warrant to go onto her lawn. He was at that point trespassing on private property without a just cause. In some states people have a right to shoot people who trespass on their property. Just because he carries a gun does not mean he has a right to trespass. And his cause for arrest is filming from her own lawn? That is so pathetic a reason. Cops don't like to be watched when they have something to hide. Again they are public servants and the public has a right to know. These cameras are a way that the public gets to audit the quality and service they pay their taxes for.

What if the officer had gotten into his cruiser and drove off? Perhaps his ego might not have been able to handle that.
RexRed
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2011 02:47 am
I do respect law enforcement and the tough job they do, I also respect a civilians right to record social events as they see fit. Should the Rodney King filmographer have been charged with a crime?

Cops act so strong and all and should not be so crybaby camera shy. They are usually the ones behind the camera filming people like Mel Gibson drunk and spewing out racial slurs. Odd how those recordings always seem to get leaked to the press.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2011 08:29 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:
Once she stepped back onto her own private property it would seem the police officer would have needed a warrant to go onto her lawn.

If someone is breaking the law in plain sight, it doesn't matter where they are, the police have a right to apprehend them.

That said, it's also been determined that if you are in public then you have not expectation of privacy and you can be filmed.

I'm surprised that the prosecutor moved forward with this, as it's pretty clearly a case of an officer over reaching.
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 04:08 am
Seems like a trend that citizens have no right to use their own cameras to film cops but cops can film citizens from their cars without written consent and post the videos on the news and reality shows? Now who is the public servant? Who gets paid by citizens taxes and who has more of a right to validate where and on what their tax money is being spent?

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/926340-196/suspects-witness-dispute-police-version-of-july.html

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/07/27/0212232/Facing-16-Years-In-Prison-For-Videotaping-Police

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3017881154843817240
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 04:12 am
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Once she stepped back onto her own private property it would seem the police officer would have needed a warrant to go onto her lawn.

If someone is breaking the law in plain sight, it doesn't matter where they are, the police have a right to apprehend them.

That said, it's also been determined that if you are in public then you have not expectation of privacy and you can be filmed.

I'm surprised that the prosecutor moved forward with this, as it's pretty clearly a case of an officer over reaching.


What if the police are breaking the law? What safeguard does the public have against police brutality? If cameras were not free and fair use in public places the officers who senselessly and without just cause beat Rodney King nearly to death would have walked...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK5bMSyJCsg
RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 04:22 am
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/07/police_accountability_activist_1.html
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 07:51 am
@RexRed,
They almost walked even with the video. It took a Federal prosecution for violating his civil rights; they were acquitted on criminal charges, if I remember correctly.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jul, 2011 07:53 am
@RexRed,

This one's a bit old. In spite of the intimidation attempt, the wiretapping charges were thrown out.



Quote:
"Slashdot readers may recall the case of a Maryland motorcyclist (Anthony Graber) arrested and charged with wiretapping violations (a felony) when he recorded his interaction with a Maryland State Trooper. Today, Judge Emory A. Pitt threw out the wiretapping charges against Graber, leaving only his traffic violations to be decided on his October 12 trial date. 'The judge ruled that Maryland's wire tap law allows recording of both voice and sound in areas where privacy cannot be expected. He ruled that a police officer on a traffic stop has no expectation of privacy.' A happy day for freedom-loving Marylanders and Americans in general."
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 29 Aug, 2011 07:54 am
http://www.universalhub.com/2011/court-says-state-law-banning-recording-police-offi
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RexRed
 
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Reply Thu 26 Jul, 2012 05:46 am
Filming Police - A Constitutional Right But Harrasment Continues
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 20 May, 2013 01:32 pm
Cops Beat Woman For Filming Another Beating
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/cops-beat-woman-filming-another-beating
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 4 Jun, 2013 04:52 pm
Cops Beat Woman Holding a Toddler After Her Friend Videotaped Them
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/philadelphia-police-brutality-against-mother-and-toddler
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