cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:51 am
@hawkeye10,
You say it's a "broken system," but that's not what we're asking for.
WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:51 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:

Agreed, but I would let the private sector take it from day one.
Nationalizing the hospitals would keep the worst parts of ObamaCare alive.

there is no way in our law to bulldoze this market other than by invoking imminent domain, and taking possession of it. We then level it, build a proper market, and then later sell it back to the capitalists.
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:53 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

You say it's a "broken system," but that's not what we're asking for.
WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?


the German system is the template.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:54 am
@hawkeye10,


The best parts are salvageable and the private sector will
get it right where as the government will further **** it up.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 11:57 am
@hawkeye10,
Template? How so? There are problems with their system too? Did you know that? Tell us the problems with the German healthcare system?

I just want to see how honest you are.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:03 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:



The best parts are salvageable and the private sector will
get it right where as the government will further **** it up.


what is salvageable? there is not a single portion of this market that operates efficiently, and not a single portion that operates under the theory of capitalism. the market is not the stuff for sale it is the transactions, which never go in a way that works. the government would temporary buy the stuff for sale for safe keeping as the market is renovated, and after the capitalists will have the opportunity to buy it back.

what are you afraid of? is it that after 20 years of government running the system the people will not want the capitalists back?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:10 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Me too. But it cannot be replaced with nothing. If you don't like Obamacare, then you, or people who agree with you, must suggest an alternative universal healthcare plan. A suggestion that we simply drop it and leave poor people to fend for themselves again should be instantly dismissed.

all ObamaCare is is an expansion of a deeply broken system. ObamaCare is not the problem, the broken system is the problem.

Repeat: ObamaCare cannot be discontinued without having a substitute.
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:16 pm
@Brandon9000,
Quote:
Repeat: ObamaCare should not be discontinued without having a substitute.


fixed.

we have not fully implemented it so it could be easily killed now, but that still will not solve anything and there is no will to do it either. I have much bigger fish to fry though so I dont care much either way.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:26 pm
@hawkeye10,
You wrote,
Quote:
we have not fully implemented it so it could be easily killed now


Not true! Any legislation to defeat ObamaCare won't even pass the Senate, and there is no chance Obama will sign it.

It CAN'T be KILLED NOW even though the tea party and republicans continue to pursue something they know isn't going to happen. THEY'RE A WASTE AND THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY!

Our country has more IMPORTANT ISSUES that needs to be addressed by congress.
hawkeye10
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 12:42 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
It CAN'T be KILLED NOW even though the tea party and republicans continue to pursue something they know isn't going to happen.

the cabinet sec in charge of implementing ObamaCare is currently seeking donations from the industry as Congress still is in charge of the money and has only given her 10% of what she needs to get it going. I am not ready to assume that ObamaCare fully happens, though it probably will.

however yet again it is clear that Washington does not work.
RABEL222
 
  6  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:07 pm
@hawkeye10,
So you dont have any solutions. Your just a worthless bitcher like waterman and his ilk.
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Sat 11 May, 2013 08:22 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Your just a worthless bitcher like waterman and his ilk.


Laughing You're getting the hang of it.
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 12:58 pm


Liberals Preparing to Abandon the Obamacare Ship
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 01:00 pm
http://katysconservativecorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/obamacare-obamacare-socialist-masterplan-for-total-control-political-poster-1307658980.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Mon 13 May, 2013 02:42 pm
@H2O MAN,
Hey, squirt, We all know you don't know how to read! Just saying it's in the small print doesn't prove anything until you're able to SHOW US THE SMALL PRINT. LOL
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 08:58 am
http://media.pennlive.com/capitol-notebook/photo/obama-meteorjpeg-a1b4fc2d0cc37021.jpeg
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 11:12 am
@H2O MAN,
And you believe cartoons can answer your stupid statements? LOL
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 11:17 am
The beginning of the end is here
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 12:15 pm
Has this ever happened in the history of the US government?

Quote:
RNC chief demands Obama fire Holder


"Demands?" Who the hell does he think he is?
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Tue 14 May, 2013 12:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,

Holder should do Obama and the country a huge favor and resign.

Who in the hell does Holder think he is anyway?
 

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