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WEINER'S PENIS PHOTO DISPUTE TO BE SETTLED IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT

 
 
Fido
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jun, 2011 09:54 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:

I tend generally to agree with you, but recognize there are lots of individual variations in situations, like this one, that arise in our political scene.

Frankly I believe the standard should be a bit higher for liberals who profess to know what's good for us and who seek to use government (at their direction) to prescribe, in ever greater detail, how we should organize our lives, and do so in ever increasing areas of our lives.
There have been situations in American Military History where Generals got into situations where they did not know were their front was... Custer in one battle actually asked: Where is our Front??? NB Forest once ordered his men to attack both ways.... We should all be willing and able to ask: Where is the loyalty of our leaders... Some people's loyalty is to their faiths, some to their nations, some to their parties, some is to their districts, and some is only for the narrow majority that sent them to lead... Inevitably, what ever may be their best intention, the need for re-election in two years makes the house a market, and where money is dear, honor is cheap... These representatives are the only democratic body, and as bad as they are, givng us so much less control of our affairs than in early constitutional times, they are still somewhat proportional... They Gerrymand, and do all they can to keep one party in power in a state, but they are still roughly proportional, as the Senate is not... All the people have is honor... It may be illusion to expect that where the people are reduced to slavery and debased and demoralized that government will be anything other than their reflection....But all the people have to hope in when they send a person to government is honor, and for that reason those in Government should show themselves to be honorable in all details of their lives, or at least be smart enough to not get caught... This Weiner was playing the slut... He would have been a whore if he were worth a dime.... Instead, he gave it for nothing... What is the meaning of this??? He knows what he is in regard to what ever ideals he began with... Judged by even worn out, jaded ideals such as I own, he is a gutterslut... After what he has done to his wife, will he now say to the constituents who made him that he is honorable, beyond reproach, or even above average... He has found his price and he should be paid: Nothing...
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Fido
 
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Reply Fri 10 Jun, 2011 10:02 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

Personally I can't blame him for lying about it too much, I mean it is embarrassing to be caught out in your underwear so to speak.
There is a point in most comedies where tragedy is avoided, and it goes by the inelegant name of the Weeny... At some point the comic hero sees himself as he is, and in the mess he alone has made for himself, and in the changes he makes he reconciles himself to his community or family... When the story first broke, and actually long before, Weiner should have seen hemself as he was, and fixed his behavior, and in so doing would have avoided a growing tragedy for him, his family, his party, and really, for his country... He could not man up... He could only do what he has almost certainly always done: Lied about it, and denied... People in his life have let him get away with this shet... He just thinks we are all as stupid as they...
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jun, 2011 10:08 pm
The latest news reports have the leading Democrats in the House (including Minority Leader Pelosi) calling for his resignation, and Weiner asking for a short leave of absence so he can seek "rehabilitation". Presumably this is an attempt to buy time in the hope that the story will fade. The House can expell him with a 2/3rds vote, something that seems attainable. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. I suspect the Democrat leadership has calculated that he is a net liability and needs to go in any event.

It is probably very difficult for a powerful politician to come to terms with the fact that the attention and obesience he/she commands has more to do with their position than their wonderful person. Seeing these things slip away probably involves a lot of denial and self delusion. That certainly appears to be the case with Mr. Weiner.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 11 Jun, 2011 10:58 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
The latest news reports have the leading Democrats in the House (including Minority Leader Pelosi) calling for his resignation, and Weiner asking for a short leave of absence so he can seek "rehabilitation". Presumably this is an attempt to buy time in the hope that the story will fade.

The House can expell him with a 2/3rds vote, something that seems attainable.
It is reminiscent of the adventures of Clinton & Monica.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 05:48 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
The latest news reports have the leading Democrats in the House (including Minority Leader Pelosi) calling for his resignation, and Weiner asking for a short leave of absence so he can seek "rehabilitation". Presumably this is an attempt to buy time in the hope that the story will fade. The House can expell him with a 2/3rds vote, something that seems attainable. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. I suspect the Democrat leadership has calculated that he is a net liability and needs to go in any event.


Correct. That (excessive grief to the party itself) is the ONLY reason for which dems will ever throw one of their own under the bus.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 06:22 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

Quote:
The latest news reports have the leading Democrats in the House (including Minority Leader Pelosi) calling for his resignation, and Weiner asking for a short leave of absence so he can seek "rehabilitation". Presumably this is an attempt to buy time in the hope that the story will fade. The House can expell him with a 2/3rds vote, something that seems attainable. It will be interesting to see what unfolds. I suspect the Democrat leadership has calculated that he is a net liability and needs to go in any event.


Correct. That (excessive grief to the party itself) is the ONLY reason for which dems will ever throw one of their own under the bus.

He is a protege of Charles Schumer.
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 07:16 am


Weiner takes a leave of absence to shoot new Viagra commercials.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 04:22 pm
@H2O MAN,
I hope thay r not illustrated.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 04:26 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
You mean like before and after pictures??
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 04:28 pm
@gungasnake,
That woud not be good.
Ordinarily, I don 't favor censorship,
but I can be liberal enuf to make an exception.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 08:38 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

He is a protege of Charles Schumer.
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Correct. I suspect the last straw will occur when Schumer disavows him.

New York State is losing two house seats as a result of the last census. That means a redistricting action of some kind will happen there fairly soon. As a last resort they could simply let Weiner finish his current term and carve up his district among its neighbors.

However, I think even that might involve too much perceived political pain for his loyal collegues, who very likely feel the need to change the subject and instead remind us all just how well the current economic recovery is going.

On second thought, maybe they will keep the Weiner.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 08:56 pm
@georgeob1,
I agree about him being re-districted out of office, if he is still there.

In my opinion, if Shummer disavows him,
its a 50/50 chance whether he 'll quit
or just continue to collect his salary n use his vote
as long as he possibly can.





David
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revelette
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 09:21 am
I agree that Weiner taking a leave of absence is an attempt to him fade out until the media forgets this incident. I think it will work and I think he can get through it, but it will take a while and a lot o slogging through to prove himself again to democrats.
Fido
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jun, 2011 08:57 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

I agree that Weiner taking a leave of absence is an attempt to him fade out until the media forgets this incident. I think it will work and I think he can get through it, but it will take a while and a lot o slogging through to prove himself again to democrats.
Why is it that we can no more than find a politicians who appears to have a brain than he pulls something stupid out of it for fun??? They must feed them crazy pills...
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 16 Jun, 2011 09:19 am
Morning news reports indicate Wiener's staff leaving and closing offices behind them, nobody taking calls.
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revelette
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jun, 2011 10:58 am
@Fido,
I didn't really keep up with the whole thing so there may have been more that I missed, but I never really saw what all the shock was about. Granted it was stupid, imagine a grown man putting lewd pictures on Facebook and twitter--i don't get it but then I have always been something of a prude to put it mildly. In any case, he is gone so that's it.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jun, 2011 07:37 pm
@revelette,
The question is whether Wiener is an aberration or whether all demoKKKrat/libtard pols are perverts; somebody needs to commission some sort of a study...
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 17 Jun, 2011 07:48 pm
@georgeob1,
I don't believe that we needed to see this degree of introspection, Gob, but I appreciate your honesty.
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