Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 06:24 pm
The USDA has come out with a nutritional graphic that it plans to use to replace the food pyramid graph.
http://www.choosemyplate.gov/images/MyPlateImages/MyPlate-green300x273.jpg
This graphic is convoluted. First, it conflates nutrient types with food groups. It lists fruits, grains, vegetables and dairy along with protein. These food groups all consist of proteins in varying degrees. Second, it doesn't mention meats or nuts and seeds. Third, the graphic would be a better graph if it were to illustrate the daily portions of each food group as recommended by the USDA as a pie chart. As it is, it only shows four food groups and a nutrient, with no indication of proportion.

What do you think?
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littlek
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 06:51 pm
I agree. I don't like it.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 08:03 pm
@InfraBlue,
My take is a "Boooooooo". I think they think most people think Meat when they say Protein.

Infrablue is correct, you can get Protein from Veggies and Grains and Fruit and Dairy.
(It's tough to do in isolation. I had a friend who decided to be a fruitarian, eat only fruits. Right. Then it was pointed out that in a six ounce (170gram) chicken breast there are about 50 grams of protein where in a six ounce banana there are 2. You have to eat a lot of fruit to get enough Protein.)

Anyway, we need to come up with a better chart for them.

Joe(Start your Illustrator Programs now.)Nation
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 08:18 pm
@Joe Nation,
I couldn't figure out where potatoes went on the plate - vegetables, I presume, but I don't think of them in the same way I think of beans and broccoli etc. Oh, wait, maybe it's the catchup on the french fries.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 08:20 pm
@InfraBlue,
Wherever I saw the "Plate graphic", they explained that people's needs vary and it was just a general type illustration.

Huh.
roger
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 08:27 pm
@ossobuco,
Yeah, people need food, in a general kind of way.
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chai2
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 09:19 pm
@Joe Nation,
Joe Nation wrote:

My take is a "Boooooooo". I think they think most people think Meat when they say Protein.

Infrablue is correct, you can get Protein from Veggies and Grains and Fruit and Dairy.
(It's tough to do in isolation. I had a friend who decided to be a fruitarian, eat only fruits. Right. Then it was pointed out that in a six ounce (170gram) chicken breast there are about 50 grams of protein where in a six ounce banana there are 2. You have to eat a lot of fruit to get enough Protein.)

Anyway, we need to come up with a better chart for them.

Joe(Start your Illustrator Programs now.)Nation


But you couldn't get complete protein by eating just a lot of bananas.
I know it's not hard to combine non meat foods over the course of a day to get complete protein, but it would be more difficult to do it with just fruit.
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Irishk
 
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Reply Thu 2 Jun, 2011 09:33 pm
@InfraBlue,
Colorful, but $2M??? For that?

I'd have done it for $1M!
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 01:53 pm
If the food pyramid is to be replaced with a plate, I think the USDA should stick with illustrating the traditional food groups and perhaps leaving out recommended portions of each, since people do have different nutritional needs, as osso pointed out.

What I don't get is the exclusion of meats and nuts in favor of the misleading "proteins."

Is this some kind of a vegan conspiracy that's infiltrated the USDA and the Obama admin. to do away with meats??? Hmm. . .
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 3 Jun, 2011 02:17 pm
The Original food pyramid program started in the 70's was a good idea, but the last version of it was whack, ruined by the reformers screwing with something that was not broken. Now the government wants to change its whole apprach to teaching what to eat, which throws away all of the previous effort, and will tend to confuse. What the government has done here is to sign on to the latest fad of the nutritionists,but does this mean that they will scrap the "my plate" program when the next one comes along?

The "my plate" idea is actually a blast from the past, when people ate on plates, at set meal times, with all of the food groups. Increasingly people dont eat like that, we snack, on the go. The food pyramid was about servings per day of each food group, which is much more helpful considering how we eat today.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 4 Jun, 2011 12:01 pm
@InfraBlue,
I was wondering is that Dairy a pint of ice cream? I'll put my seal of approval for that part of the depiction then. Razz

It doesn't depict how fats should be considered in the whole shebang.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jun, 2011 04:42 pm
@tsarstepan,
It seems the USDA is trying to illustrate food groups, so they wouldn't list fats since fats are a nutrient type.

But because they leave out the meats food group in favor of the nutrient type proteins I'm convinced that it's a vegan conspiracy to do away with meat foods!
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jun, 2011 05:18 pm
@tsarstepan,
Ok, we're on top of this. French fries as the main veg, and ice cream as the dairy. Bacon as the protein. Corn syrup as my grain.
So, would you pass me the grapes, I think they need peeling.

This thing is useless without a sheath of instruction, which is naturally not the best thing for a graphic. I take it they mean well.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 6 Jun, 2011 05:49 pm
@ossobuco,
And green vegetables. Like the pickles on the burger.
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