@failures art,
The following link ,
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/runons.htm
is often cited as a grammar source and yet it is filled with mistakes. One mistake was pointed out to them over five years ago, they admitted it wasn't accurate, but nothing has been changed.
Oops, comma splice.
Why? Because these types of websites simply collect all the old nonsense and regurgitate it in the same fashion that OED regurgitated the nonsense about split infinitives until 1996 or thereabouts when they finally came out and "pronounced" it to be kosher.
Quote:
A RUN-ON SENTENCE (sometimes called a "fused sentence") has at least two parts, either one of which can stand by itself (in other words, two independent clauses), but the two parts have been smooshed together instead of being properly connected. Review, also, the section which describes Things That Can Happen Between Two Independent Clauses.
You could probably find a section at this website where they warn against using words like 'smooshed'. How many teachers would redmark that little "error"?
Quote:It is important to realize that the length of a sentence really has nothing to do with whether a sentence is a run-on or not; being a run-on is a structural flaw that can plague even a very short sentence:
The sun is high, put on some sunblock.
Run on sentences are not "structural flaws". They are unbelievably common in everyday speech and that everyday speech spills over into everyday writing.
"Proper" punctuation has nothing to do with grammar. It has to do with stylistic considerations that we try to observe for the most formal of writing.
If we were to follow their advice in the sentence above, [which is a really dumb example for them to have chosen without including some guidance to let people know what they already know, that these stylistic considerations DO NOT cover speech], we would have a change in the nuance,
The sun is high, so put on some sunblock.
Without, 'so' the statement is more neutral. By adding 'so' it could easily be glossed as an angrier, more insistent statement. In the next section, they probably went on for pages about the importance of writing clearly and not inserting extra words. [roll eyes emoticon]
Quote:When two independent clauses are connected by only a comma, they constitute a run-on sentence that is called a comma-splice. The example just above (about the sunscreen) is a comma-splice. When you use a comma to connect two independent clauses, it must be accompanied by a little conjunction (and, but, for, nor, yet, or, so).
Pure piffle. A2K postings are replete with comma splices. Using comma splices [no hyphen necessary]/short pause statements is as natural as breathing and the only time I've noticed them come up is when OmSig wants to bust someone's balls.
Okay, not pure piffle, mostly piffle. Why don't these sites, which purport to know about language, put at the top of every page,
THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES DO NOT APPLY TO ALL LANGUAGE SITUATIONS. THEY ARE STYLISTIC CONVENTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ARTIFICIALLY DEVISED TO TRY TO AVOID CONFUSION IN THE WRITTEN WORD.
And yet, there are people who make entire careers out of passing off this flat earth nonsense, very likely even some of those same professors who are unwilling to allow any Wikipedia sources to taint their students thoughts or papers.
Did I just slice a comma?