Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2011 08:03 am
A CRAFT DROPS A BOMB FROM 7 KILOMETER ALTITUDE, FLYING WITH A SPEED OF 2000 KILOMETER PER HOUR, TELL SPEED OF THE BOMB WHEN STRIKES THE EARTH?
A)WILL BE LESS THAN2000KM/H
B)WILL BE MORE THAN 2000KM/H
C)WILL BE EQUAL AS 2000KM/H
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2011 08:11 am
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Wind resistance will slow it down drastically and the terminal velocity is far less than 2,000 . Actually you cant drop a bomb at that speed because you dont know where it will end up ...it could hit the plane .
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2011 10:06 am
@SAJJAD ALI,
the bomb hits the earth vertically, the speed in the horizonal direction is meaningless. Simply plug into the equation.

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As an object falls, its speed increases because it's being pulled on by gravity. The accleration of gravity is g = -9.81 m/s^2. To find out something's speed (or velocity) after a certain amount of time, you just multiply the acceleration of gravity by the amount of time since it was let go of. So you get: speed = -9.81 m/s^2 * time, or V = gt. The negative sign just means that the object is moving downwards. If it were positive, then it would be moving up.

If you have an initial velocity (if you threw the ball up or down instead of just letting go of it), then you have to include this in the equation, too, giving you: V = Vo + gt, where Vo is the initial velocity of the object. This equation will still work if you threw the ball to the side, instead of straight up or down, except that it will only give you the up-down speed, not the total speed. (And the number you should use for Vo is still just the up-down velocity that the object starts with.)

Time of fall?
Q:How does one determine the time and velocity of a fall if you only have the distance of the fall?

You need the acceleration. If you are at the surface of the earth the acceleration is g = 32.2 feet/sec2 or 9.8 meter/sec2. Integrating the acceleration once gives V = Vo + g T where Vo is the initial velocity, presumably zero, and T is the time of fall. Integrating once more gives d = Vo T + gT2/2. So taking Vo = 0 you get
T = sqrt(2d/g) and V=sqrt(2dg).

That V gives is the final V. In case you want the average V over the fall, it's half that



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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2011 07:27 pm
@kuvasz,
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the speed in the horizonal direction is meaningless
???? So why do bomb aimers take into account the horizontal speed of the plane ? What happened to the terminal velocity ? It doesnt just keep accelerating . You were no help whatsoever.....
kuvasz
 
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Reply Sun 24 Apr, 2011 10:10 pm
@Ionus,
Really? The speed the initial poster asked for was the speed at which the bomb hit the earth from a vertical position above the earth. You can't be so ignorant of vector analysis not to understand that orthagonal forces are not additive.

What am I saying, you consistently exhibit a strong propensity towards the Durning-Kruger Syndrome; a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes, and therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is.

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So why do bomb aimers take into account the horizontal speed of the plane? What happened to the terminal velocity ?


So they hit the target with an object in a parabolic shaped fall, btw terminal velocity is dependent on the shape of the object. You should have learned this when you were 14.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2011 12:24 am
@kuvasz,
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you consistently exhibit a strong propensity towards the Durning-Kruger Syndrome; a cognitive bias in which unskilled people make poor decisions and reach erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to appreciate their mistakes, and therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their ability as above average, much higher than it actually is.
Does that apply to you ? You were asked to pick one of three answers . Perhaps you know of a bomb that has a terminal velocity above 2,000 km/h ? How many shapes have a terminal velocity in excess of 2,000 km/h ?

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they hit the target with an object in a parabolic shaped fall
And where on the parabola did it make contact with the earth ? Your googling and cutting and pasting was not helpful . Try thinking next time .

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the bomb hits the earth vertically, the speed in the horizonal direction is meaningless.
????? Says who, Einstein....
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2011 01:00 am
@kuvasz,
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the speed at which the bomb hit the earth from a vertical position above the earth
You are imagining things...no surprises there.....
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2011 04:58 pm
@Ionus,
Awh, got your feeling hurt by having your ignorance pointed out? You really are a clueless little idiot arent you? Have you no background in physics, nor understand that giving an answer does the initial poster no value if he is learning physics and simply posted a homework question?

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the bomb hits the earth vertically, the speed in the horizonal direction is meaningless.


Says who, Einstein....


No, that would be Newton, the issue is mechanics, not relativity, and the mechanical issue is that forces are additive only along a specific axis. You do note that the discussion was set up with an X and Y axis, the forces along them are not capable of addition. But let's take the case of an object falling at 2,000m/sec; are you stating that you can increase its vertical speed by increasing its horizontal speed?

Have you ever taken a physics class, or even walked by one? Considering the stupidty of your remarks, I bet that you can't even count to twenty without taking off your shoes.

btw, your posts here, as well as elsewhere show dramatically that you suffer from Durning Kruger Syndrome, or in the venacular, too-stupid-to-know-how-*******- stupid-you-are. But I encourage you to continue posting, since the idiocy of your posts can be humorous to those smarter than you, and that would be most of humanity.
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 25 Apr, 2011 05:48 pm
@kuvasz,
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Awh, got your feeling hurt by having your ignorance pointed out?
No. Not at all as I am still waiting for you to have vague clue as to what the **** you think you are talking about . Still saving dogs but to hell with people ? There is your problem right there .

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The speed the initial poster asked for was the speed at which the bomb hit the earth from a vertical position above the earth.
Where did it say that ? Making it up as you go along, arent you ? Why did you fail to read the question ? Didnt they cover that in comic book physics ?

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Says who, Einstein....
No, that would be Newton, the issue is mechanics, not relativity,
Exactly . That is why I called you Einstein . You think you know what you are talking about but you havent a ******* clue .

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You do note that the discussion was set up with an X and Y axis, the forces along them are not capable of addition.
Why do you keep saying that ? Are you afraid it isnt correct or are you trying to take emphasis away from what you dont know ?

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are you stating that you can increase its vertical speed by increasing its horizontal speed?
No, but you are saying the final vector is not influenced by its horizontal speed . Tell us about how a bomb can fall faster than 2,000 km/h .....this will be fun . Tell us how wind resistance makes it go faster..... Rolling Eyes clueless prick .

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Have you ever taken a physics class, or even walked by one?
I can see you have been thrown out of plenty . Uneducated aren't you ?

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Considering the stupidty of your remarks,
Very Happy Stupidty ......yes, it is quite a big word.....did you need a rest after that one ?

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I bet that you can't even count to twenty without taking off your shoes.
We wouldnt want you to exaggerate, you poor old dog lover you .

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But I encourage you to continue posting, since the idiocy of your posts can be humorous to those smarter than you
So you will be bursting into tears quite a lot, then....

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Durning Kruger Syndrome
Not only do you think of yourself as brilliant Physicist (Newton, not Einstein) but you think you are also a Psychologist....you need to interact more with people and stop getting dogs top beg for their meals . It is feeding your delusions or power .
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