Pipeline to prison?

Here again, the failure of teachers and administrators to create a disciplined environment of learning where progress and success can be clearly measured, and is demanded, has led to this cop out

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Here again, the failure of teachers and administrators to create a disciplined environment of learning where progress and success can be clearly measured, and is demanded, has led to this cop out

No, it is because we Americans can always be counted on to go to the quick and easy "solution".....we believe that any problem can be fixed by popping a pill, writting a policy and then passing it out, passing a law, changing the numbers.......

Any solution that requires actual work or trusting other people is off of the table from the get-go.

The 10th Amendment provides that the federal government
has no power other that what was granted to it in the Constitution.

Well yes, external pressures from sources like parents, politicians and the media have made it very difficult for teachers and school administrators to achieve their proper goal, but this doesn't exempt them from trying nor does it exclude them from being part of the cause of underlying problem.

Juveniles tried as adults?

Support in rare cases

Sometimes the crimes children commit are as heinous as any that can be committed by adults, and there is no reason to believe that the child can be rehabilitated or that they will not commit similar crimes upon their release. If a rapist/murderer who is 17 years, 10 months old "skate" because he is treated as a juvenile, justice has not been served and the public not properly protected.

The war on drugs? A misappropriation of the word "war", and an expensive disaster
Mandatory minimum sentences? Over reaching of the legislature into the judicial process
Three strikes and you're out laws? See above
Juveniles tried as adults? A gross violation of civilized moral principle
Zero tolerance policies in schools? Idiocy by those who don't trust other people to make decisions.
High stakes, standardized testing in schools? Occasionally required, for instance to get into law school, but generally a poor use of time. I am in favor of some standardized testing, but it should not determine who graduates and who does not.

because their inhumanity will express itself in pain where ever they reside...

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because their inhumanity will express itself in pain where ever they reside...

we have a solution for that, called the super max prison....the only problem is that this cost us nearly $100,000 per year per unit of inventory.

Really, why even should someone even flunk out of college? If they have the means to pay and they aren't being all weird and dangerous, why should we care if they don't do well?

I certainly care if someone I expect to have met certain standards of education has done so - or has simply completed the program because they can't be flunked out.

Honestly; you cannot brutalize a human being into becoming a brute, but the possibilities of creating a greater brute out of a lesser brute are endless, and only certain death is likely to end the process... That is what this society does... It dehumanizes people, makes them objects, gives them as little soul as objects, as little mercy, affection, or caring... Once this society has set such people that particular path to hell it does not matter what age they are whether young or ancient; because their inhumanity will express itself in pain where ever they reside...

Before law as Law; when every person made an issue of justice and honor we did not have this creation of objects, of brutes...

When was this golden age?

The existence of law is synonymous with the existence of injustice and people denied justice suffer pain, and from an early age, and it ruins them, and in makes them inhuman...

How is the existence of law the same as the existence of injustice. The concepts of justice and injustice are not dependent upon the existence of laws. Again, not following your point.

The idea is not to build more prisons, but to make fewer people to populate them... And what is the point anyway???

If we are going to make a production line turning perfect human beings into animals we may as well slaughter them because they will never again be turned into human beings through brutality....

I am unclear as to what you believe the "production line to be:" growing up in our scociety or our penal system?

If it the latter, it's hardly the case that perfect human being are being put on the production line (incarcerated in our prisons).

If its the former, your analogy fails because while every person born into our society may be a perfect human being (although this can easily disputed) they don't all come out at the end of the line as inhumans.

Clearly you are equating incarceration with brutalization, and I don't necessarily disagree or argue that in such an environment rehabilitation is possible, but if life in our society is dehumanizing the entire population, what hope can there be for it to provide an environment for the rehabilitation of criminals?

Perhaps when you can figure out how to construct a perfect environment for criminal rehabilitation, you can move everyone in there too and we won't have to worry about new criminals coming off the production line.

And it is not just the poor I refer to here... We have presidents with as little soul as prisoners, who kill by order and never have to smell the death or taste the blood; and who never suffer a rational fear of death from those they erase... There is no self defense to justify their actions... They defend their positions, their privilage, or their profit... A common murder has more of my respect than those who kill for profit because they at least suffer the risk of punishment fitting their crime... Killing for profit is legal... Killing for pleasure is not.... But what do people expect besides pleasure from their profit???

This just sound like you've taken a ride on the hopeless cynic train.