I want to hear all your ideas............
Do you recall when I mentioned to you that now when I listen to people I know right away if they know what they are talking about? To demonstrate what I said to you I'm going to take quite a few liberties with what you posted. It is an extremely simple sentence, but as we go through it together you will get an 'inkling' of the 'labyrinth' I have been referring to.
The dictionary defines “idea” as:
“any 'conception' existing in the 'mind' as a result of 'mental understanding', 'awareness', or 'activity'.”
The very first thing you should notice is that when it comes to reading the dictionary we don't question what it says. Not even for a nanosecond do we even recognize the possibility of questioning the dictionary. We just blindly read it as if it is the final authority in the matter (“God”). Take a moment for that to sink in. Ever since the moment you could say the word 'dictionary' it has determined your 'existence' and you haven't even noticed that you didn't have a choice in the matter.
The next thing you should notice is that 'idea' is associated with the words 'conception', 'mind', 'mental' 'understanding', 'awareness', and 'activity'.
Let's take a look at those words.
the act of conceiving; the state of being conceived; a notion; idea; concept:
the element, part, substance or process that reasons, thinks, feels, wills, perceives, judges, etc.; the processes of the human mind. (in other words, it's ”the processes of the human mind”
that determine the existence of Mind
, so, Mind
. What the hell!!)
of or pertaining to the mind (see the definition above)
mental process of a person who comprehends; comprehension; personal interpretation: (see 'Mental' and then 'Mind', above)
having knowledge; conscious; cognizant:
the state or quality of being active
One other word we should address that is not included in the definition of 'idea'.
a distinguishing quality, attribute or trait
Review the list of words above. All of those words (concepts) represent one word which is the word 'idea' (concept). We use Mind
to define Mind
and 'concepts' to validate 'concepts'. We never question what we are doing and never question the measurability (length, width, depth, locality, mass) of the 'concept' we are using. Take a moment to notice and you will see that all of the words used to define 'idea' are 'concepts', representations of Be-ing/living, they are not
Another pattern you should take note of is that in the case of 'Conception', 'idea' is used to define 'Conception' and that a 'Conception' is a concept. So, 'Conception' is a concept that defines the word 'idea' and an 'idea' is a 'Conception'. What's up with that? The only thing in the definition of 'Conception' that seems to come close to being accurate is the part where it says “being conceived”, which points to Be-ing/thinking.
uses “the processes of the Mind
to define itself, Mental
to define itself, and Understanding
to define itself. Let's address the word 'Mind' first, it seems to be the keystone that holds the flim-flam all together.
As part of our agreements with each other, we require “proof of existence” before we accept that entities exist. 'Proof of existence' is determined by 2 criteria, measurability (length, width, depth, locality, mass) and definability. Both measurability and definability have to be present before 'proof of existence' can be accepted. Mind
(and just about every other concept) has plenty of definability and absolutely no measurability. Why is it that humanity (yeh, you) demands that we use measurability and definability as the criteria for 'proof of existence' only to give a pass to Mind
(and just about every other concept) when it comes to measurability? Don't you find that to be a little curious?
is an ethereal concept which define itself. It is assumed that when we think, that thinking has
to come from somewhere, so mind is a representation of a container that stores 'thoughts'. Mind
was inserted into our language prior to 900 AD.
The existence of Mind
can't be proven. Since Mind
doesn't exist what do we do with the words 'Mental' and 'Understanding' which are defined by Mind
Is all of this becoming a little confusing? If the answer is yes, then we are on the right track. In Japan, temples have two beasts sitting on either side of the door. I opine that the temples represent Be-ing and the beasts represent confusion and doubt. You have to go through confusion and doubt to enter the temple, to 'Be' who you are. Actually, I find that you're already Be-ing who you are and letting the confusion and doubt distract you from Be-ing.
Out of all those words that are used to define 'idea' there are only two characteristics which come close to representing the word 'idea'. In the definition of 'Conception' you have 'Be-ing conceived' and in the definition 'Activity' you have 'Be-ing active'. 'Idea' is a representation of the 'act' of 'conceiving'. It is a process, not a 'thing' that you yank out of a container called Mind
Glance over the words and definitions (above) and notice that if anybody tried to flim-flam you with all that misdirection, you would tell them to get the hell out of your life, pronto. You have given Merriam-Webster the status of “God” in your life and you operate (blindly) as if Merriam-Webster is “God”.
The last thing you should notice is that all of this was started by one little word, 'idea', which has led to another word and then to another word and on and on. We are “The Tower of Babel”. The world dictates our existence by using a labyrinth of measurability and definability as the standard to represent Be-ing. You confuse your 'self' with the concepts of the world and turn your 'self' into a 'thing' instead of Be-ing your 'self'.
Nobody, and I really mean nobody, can disentangle you from the labyrinth of 'mis-conceptions' and presuppositions. The purpose of this is to remind you that's your job to do. Most people don't know that they need to do a serious and systematic study to attain their freedom. They actually think that it's something they are entitled to as a consequence of a proclamation or by fighting a series of wars.
Nobody cares if you do the work. As a matter-of-fact they wish you wouldn't, because you will be a reminder that they aren't getting their job done.
If you can't 'hear' what I'm saying and it is not calling out to you to do something about your freedom, then maybe you should click on the “Dasein” link and then click on the “Ignore User” button. Keep yourself from going through the aggravation of asking me to explain only to have me respond by telling you that it can't be explained. Until the day I disappear from this forum I will keep posting. You don't have to keep reading what I post.
If you want to argue with me about what I've written, that's okay. Just don't expect me to participate in your argument. I'll click on the 'Ignore User' button for you.
JPL; Remember your post which started all of this: I want to hear all your ideas............
I don't have any ideas.