Pentagon Bars Three Nations From Iraq Bids

I seem to remember that your country had a hand in the Iraq fiasco.

"It is necessary for the protection of the essential security interests of the United States to limit competition...."

Just bear in mind that one of the administrations main jobs is to keep an eye what is best for america and americans. Not what is best for France of Iraq.

It's like N. Korea saying they will freeze their Nuclear program for heating oil a a non-agressin pact with the US. They act like they deserve us to treat them well while showing us their ass.

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It's like N. Korea saying they will freeze their Nuclear program for heating oil a a non-agressin pact with the US. They act like they deserve us to treat them well while showing us their ass.

Saying that we do not plan to invade them is not undue treatment.

Yes it is because that is rewarding them with something they don't deserve.

Let them shut down thier Nuclear Program and let the UN back in to inspect the operations and back down from any further threats of nuking South Korea. THEN we can sit down and talk to them.

I would like to see them removed from the terror sponsoring countries list as the only people suffering are themselves. There is not a large islamic population in N. Korea. They do however pose a threat of selling weapons to terror organization as seen in the missile shipment to Yemen. Who knows what else they are up to.

Just bear in mind that one of the administrations main jobs is to keep an eye what is best for america and americans.

But what has france, Germany or Russia done to further their case? It seems like they go out of their ways sometimes to be contrarian. Give a little, get a little.

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Yes it is because that is rewarding them with something they don't deserve.

See, I don't think not invading a nation is a "reward". I don't think we have a right to invade them. I think not invading nations without justification is the ideal, not an undue reward.

I have not heard of any plans to invade N. Korea. I agree that we can't go around willy-nilly invading people. I believe that we had an agreement with N. korea that they decided to break when the withdrew from the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

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Let them shut down thier Nuclear Program and let the UN back in to inspect the operations and back down from any further threats of nuking South Korea. THEN we can sit down and talk to them.

They have no obligation to do so. They are no longer part of any treaty that requires them not to have nukes.

In short, they have the legal right to nukes now. We don't want them to have them but that's not something we have the right to stipulate.

Secondly we stationed nukes on the Korean pennensula untill recently. We leaked nuclear attack plans.

In short we are the only nation that has threatened the use of nukes. NK is not in the habit of threatening people with nukes. Since this administration has been in power we have made those threats and they haven't.

So, we should bend over backwards for them? You are right in that they have their own rights, much as we have the right to refuse to help N. Korea in any way. In fact, we are leveraging our allies to not help them either. We are effectively using an economic embargo against them until they bow under our pressure. That's one of the good things about having the big stick, you get to use it sometimes. We will get our way without invasion through economic means. A situation that we couldn't do in Iraq.

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I would like to see them removed from the terror sponsoring countries list as the only people suffering are themselves. There is not a large islamic population in N. Korea. They do however pose a threat of selling weapons to terror organization as seen in the missile shipment to Yemen. Who knows what else they are up to.

I am concerned about proliferation. But do note that their sale to Yemen was perfectly legal. Their proliferation is perfectly legal.

The interdiction of their ship by the US and Spain was a move that the US admitted was illegal, and we were forced to allow the shipment to continue to Yemen. We have no legal basis to demand a halt to these activities. They are perfectly within their legal right.

We simply do not like their proliferation, proliferation itself isn't the point as we are the biggest proliferators on earth.

And at times like these when they are doing things they have the legal right to do, but that we disagree with, it's not helpfult o act like they have the obligation to bend over for us.

They have the legal right to nuclear weapons.

They have the legal right to sell their technology.

They simply want us to sign an agreement saying that we won't invade them. Frankly, given the threats we have issued them and this administration's penchant for war they would be stupid to give up their nukes.

Unless they get a non-agression agreement from us they should damn well continue to build nukes as it's their greatest deterrence for agression against them.