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Nietzsche Slave Morality

 
 
esthlos
 
Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:53 pm
In what ways are religions a representation of Nietzsche's slave morality?
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jgweed
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2010 05:25 am
Read The Genealogy of Morals and then The Antichrist ; not all religions necessarily are versions of slave morality, although they all are examples of the Will to Power.
esthlos
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2010 05:52 am
@jgweed,
Hi, you seem to have a deep understanding of Nietzsche's ideas. In Nietzsche's eyes christianity is definitely a form of slave morality, is this correct? And political parties such as the Nazis were also examples of slave morality? If followers of these parties and religions are considered as "slaves" then does it make the leader of these particular parties "masters"???
your insight will be appreciated.
thanks
jgweed
 
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Reply Thu 16 Sep, 2010 07:22 am
@esthlos,
Christianity, as an historical phenomenon, can be seen as a form of slave morality, as it shares with it resentiment toward life itself, towards Others, and most especially, according to Nietzsche, towards one-self.

While N. was more concerned with the "politics of the soul" his stance towards nations and the state, which he called the "coldest of cold monsters," was one of disdain. One can argue that N. understood politics as another herd perspective.

I think, when you ask if leaders are "masters," that you have missed the essence of "master morality," and N. would have considered them as much (if not more so) a representative of slave morality as the herd that follows them.
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Amor-Fate
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jun, 2012 04:10 pm
@esthlos,
One way to understand N's distinction between master/slave morality is to examine a religion's attitude (or any ideology's attitude) towards suffering. Greek and Roman religions saw suffering as part of parcel with life, and thus they produced profound, life affirming tragedy. Conversely, Christianity and other Abrahamic religions view suffering as an affront to life, as proof that life is refutable. The question of suffering is absolutely fundamental to Nietzsche's master/slave morality distinction.
j-clayton
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 06:20 pm
@Amor-Fate,
For Nietsche suffering and joy are intermingled , all a necessary part of the same organism . To escape suffering a christian hopes for death and a life hereafter . The easy way out .
Slaves , or the masses are an impediment to the development of the Ubermensch according to him . Though he does seem to see them as base for the development of the superior man .
If he had the knowledge we have now of the genome would he not think differently ? Democracy has enabled a much larger number of people to have the opportunity of development . As we now know brain capacity is the same pretty well for everyone .
Ironically , to my mind , we have more opportunity but have become more mired in the easy way out . Comfort and security ( another fantasy like religion ) in consumerism .
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