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Jet Lag sucks

 
 
dadpad
 
Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:07 pm
Just thought I'd let you know.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:08 pm
@dadpad,
And this is caused by what, headwinds?
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:11 pm

I never get jet lag (as long as the plane goes fast enuf)
and does not fall behind.





David
dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:14 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
try spending around 20 hours and crossing the date line on a plane and see how you go david
dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:16 pm
@dadpad,
Yes, it does.

NOT looking forward to it!

dadpad
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:16 pm
In about 3 hours I will have been awake for 24 hours.
dagmaraka
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:20 pm
@dadpad,
but the sleep has never felt better, though you'll still feel dizzy when you wake up. coma-like, heavy drugs-like. will feel so good!
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 04:34 pm
@dadpad,
dadpad wrote:

In about 3 hours I will have been awake for 24 hours.


Look on the bright side.

It'll be worse for me.

I get it three times..
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 05:35 pm
@dlowan,
I've only gotten it when flying east, say California to Italy. I do remember that the last time I flew home, I slept for something like thirty hours off and on. (That must have been a weekend.)

Years ago I read a book about jet lag and remember the advice to avoid coffee for 24 hrs before the flight, on the flight/flights, and then when landing (I presume they meant in the daytime), drinking several cups of strong coffee. The book made a point that it wasn't caffeine that mattered, but something else in coffee.

My first trip was totally screwed up (35 or so hours awake) and no coffee trick mattered; second trip, I think we arrived late in the daytime and thus sleeping (I sleep little on planes, alas) made perfect sense and I had little jet lag. Third trip, arrived in the daytime, wandered around like a zombie but did have several coffees after landing, slept well that night. So, I don't know if that coffee thing was silly or not.

I suppose there is advice online that is more up to date.
I never tried melatonin, though I bought some - something made me chicken to try it.
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margo
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 08:50 pm
Thas'stroo!
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 08:54 pm
@dadpad,
yup

I can recall hamburgboy refusing to let any of us go to sleep til it was night-time wherever we'd arrived. I'd get to that past-tired place and ick.

Gotta admit that we got over the jetlag faster than most fellow travellers, but still, ick.
Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 25 Aug, 2010 09:56 pm
@ehBeth,
That's a really great idea. The problem I have is I can't seem to stay awake on a plane. The minute we're at cruising speed, I conk out -- I think it's the drone of the engines.
Eorl
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 06:35 am
@Irishk,
I stayed awake for four days once. It was part of a radio station contest back in my uni days. Last one awake still holding on to a ribbon attached to a car, won the car. Would have funded my remaining at university.

Almost none of the 50 fell asleep. They were pulled by doctors as systems started rebelling. Kidneys, livers, digestive systems, etc. For me, (I had a nurse helping me stay on top of the physical problems) it was the hallucinations that got me. I was fourth last out Sad Had to leave uni. Took about six months to feel normal again.
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dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 07:45 pm
Slept for about 3 hours yesterday then took a temazapan (10mg) about 10 pm. slept till around 3.00 am. I woke then and was AWAKE!. took 2 more temazapan and slept till 8.30 am.
I feel like i'm over the worst of it.
I should have taken the tabs on monday night.
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Dutchy
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:14 pm
@dlowan,
When I fly to Europe I never have any problems. On my return to Australia I always stop-over in Kuala Lumpur for a couple of days and never suffer jet lag.
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:24 pm
@Dutchy,
For me it's the opposite - flying to Europe, we lose 9 hours and have for at least 3 days jet lag. When flying back to California, we gain 9 hours, arrive at night,
go to bed and sleep through the night - never seems to be a problem.

dadpad, take some melatonin or antihistamine that contains Diphenhydramine (makes you sleepy)
dadpad
 
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Reply Thu 26 Aug, 2010 10:57 pm
@Dutchy,
I'd had the same thought dutchy. Maybe next time.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 27 Aug, 2010 12:25 am
@CalamityJane,
Me too, or as I said earlier.
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 28 Aug, 2010 01:15 am
@dadpad,
Then this might help you understand and possibly fight the jet lag blues:
http://beta.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2010/aug/27/please-explain-jet-lag/
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As summer nears its close, many of us are flying away to get our last taste of summer vacation, but nothing ruins a good jaunt to Europe like a bout of jet lag. In fact, jet lag was once considered such a problem that Congress set up a special unit at NASA devoted to studying the condition. Joining us to explain why jet lag occurs and how we can prevent it are Dr. Kevin Gregory, a former scientist at the NASA Jet Lag Center and the current senior scientist at Alertness Solutions Inc., and Dr. David M. Rapoport, Director of the Sleep Medicine Program at NYU Medical School.

Tips For When You Travel:

Go West. Travelling affects us more when travelling east than when travelling west. This is because our circadian clocks are slightly longer than 24 hours, so we don’t mind as much staying up late versus waking up extra early.
Melatonin. You can take the hormone melatonin, although because it is not regulated by the FDA, getting the correct dose is difficult. Generally taking half a milligram of the hormone around two hours before you go to sleep will be helpful.
Use light. The best way to monitor your jet lag is to use light to drive your own melatonin. So if you’re waking up extra early because you’re going from New York to California, do not go outside! Try to limit your exposure to sun at the wrong times so that your melatonin is released at the right time.
Sleeping pills are also good. Sleeping medicine is maybe more effective – three days of taking sleeping pills at the time when you want to go to bed in the new time zone will bring you into sync at around one time zone per day.
The Kissinger Strategy. You could also start planning for your trip by going to bed at a slightly earlier or later time depending on when you’re travelling, so you can condition your body to prepare for the time zone to which you’re heading. This is what Henry Kissinger did.
Stick to your old schedule if it’s a short trip. It takes up to a week or sometimes more to get in sync with a new time zone. So if you’re a businessman or businesswoman who is only travelling for 24 or 48 hours to a new time zone, it’s sometimes better not to shift. This means trying to avoid sunlight and also scheduling meetings as close to your home schedule as possible.
Sunglasses. Sunglasses can help train your body by preventing the bright bursts of sunlight that may alter our clocks in the wrong way. This is especially useful in countries during which there is too much light—like Iceland in the summertime.
Keep your routines – just shift the time you do them. Eat your meals at the correct hour in the time zone to which you’ve travelled – don’t wait until you’re hungry. This is the same with exercise – attempt to alter your daily routine as little as possible, just do it on the correct time zone.

Make sure to get a good amount of sleep before you travel. If you’re sleep deprived before you fly, it will make your jet lag worse.

And if all else fails…Viagra has been shown to reduce the effects of jet lag in hamsters.
Guests: Kevin Gregory and David M. Rapoport

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 28 Aug, 2010 01:39 am
@CalamityJane,
Same with me: no problems when flying to the USA (hopefully again not next week, since then I'll have to drive a bit in the evening), but some minor (Mrs Walter here has the opposite opinion) problems when back in Germany.
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