@blueveinedthrobber,
I would like to put in one interesting experience that i had, in vietnam.
everyone there is relatively "happy".
even though only a handful of people have cars, and most only have a motorcycle, and most only make a bear living, they are all... satisfied...
i spoke to a few people concerning their view of ho chi minh, communism, and their social standards.
they all stated that ho chi minh is a great person; he unified the north and south, kicked the french and americans out, and brought the people together. he has more power than obama because he can do whatever he wants.
Of course, as a US citizen, i can write books on how every aspect of that is false, but I took it as is and nodded.
of course there are some coercion, denial, etc. involved in that statement, but looking at the facts (anyone who even asks who ho chi minh is bears a risk of being killed on the spot due to disrespect), it was true, regardless of what they believed in; most people were happy with that.
this experience, along your statement about Norway brings me to think that perhaps the amount of freedom America is given may actually be too much... we praise choice, opinion, option, and "free will"... but is that really a good thing??
sure not enough may be bad too, like vietnam or norway, but aren't they just as happy us us?
we americans are not that happy either, sure we think we are happy; party, girls, sex, work, golf, cars, shoes, clothes, food, music... so many things to make us happy, but only because the government limits our education and bombards us with uncontrollable amounts of entertainment, delusion (money = happiness, school = success), etc. that we are sort of forced to go after the specific kind of happiness we are taught to seek, without really knowing what happiness is. so we aren't really free as much as we would like to think either. so we really don't have the right to say anything to people in norway or vietnam, or any other communist and socialist countries...
isn't this a bit extreme, in the same degree, but the opposite of say a communist and socialist country?
whether you are under democracy, or communism, we are both blind regardless, some of us are aware of it if we have enough cognitive capacity to step away from our daily assumptions of life we have built throughout our life.
eventually, hopefully, we all will find a balanced government system, where people have enough free will to have their own voice heard, while not being over hypnotized by what the society says to do.
sorry about the long threads, i'm sure no one reads any of this =b
55hikky