Morality is not about behavior.

Ah so you are prepared to make statements but not defend them.

In the interest of what I would say was your unchristian statements
but sensing your christian beliefs, I find it necessary to understand
your mindset.

If you dont want to defend your morality with that in mind,
all I can say is..how strange.

To widen the debate how do you think christians can have such views
when they say I dont give a dam about others problems?

His religous views do matter, they matter a great deal. Im not demanding, Im enquiring. I assume his religous views oppose his voiced opinions on social concerns. He knows that and understand the problems he will encounter admitting his faith. We all lay ourselves open to scrutiny and often abuse, this is not torture, its essential debate.

Well as you have just confirmed, your scared of debate.

.I cant say I blame you with your attitude.
Lets say I ignore you, as the only ability you have is abuse and ignorance.

Whats the point? you dont want to be questioned.
The whole point of debate is to question others their reasoning
and moral stand point. If you refuse to be drawn then I have no alternative.

code of morals all men, or perhaps all things

I believe your right, so you can only question the reasoning not the outcome. If Hitler refused to argue his reasoning then you might suspect he feels he is not acting within his moral beliefs but beyond them. He has to defend his ethics with debate. If a slave owner claims to be a christian, you have to ask how did he honestly come to that moral understanding considering the christian ideology.

Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed.

Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved.

Teach and urge these duties. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words. From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.

Slavery is absolutely part of the Christian ideology. From the Bible - 1 Timothy 6.

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Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed.

Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved.

Teach and urge these duties. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words. From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

Notice that some of the Masters were themselves Christians. Masters were told to treat their slaves fairly-- they were not told to let their slaves go.

[ There are plenty of similar passages in the New Testament-- see Ephesians 6 Colossians 3, Titus 2, 1 Peter 2 ]

The God of the Bible also clearly tells His people that they can own slaves in Leviticus 25.

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As for the male and female slaves whom you may have, it is from the nations around you that you may acquire male and female slaves. You may also acquire them from among the aliens residing with you, and from their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property. You may keep them as a possession for your children after you, for them to inherit as property. These you may treat as slaves, but as for your fellow Israelites, no one shall rule over the other with harshness.

Many of the threads I am in have to do, in some way or another, about morality. It seems to me that in these discussion, a common mistake is made when asking me a question about my sense of morality.

The question is phrased... "Would you sleep with that attractive movie star?"

This question has nothing to do with my sense of morality. I have no question that, as I have made marriage vows, it would be immoral for me to sleep with anyone other then my wife. So the question then has nothing to do with my understanding of morality... many people (if not all) do things that they understand to be immoral.

So there two completely different questions.

1) What is your system of morality (or rules do you use to distinguish between right or wrong)?
2) How do you behave.

Many of the arguments about morality seem to imply that most people act completely in accordance with their own morals. I believe this is completely false... I know that I sometimes do things I know is wrong. And, I know enough people to believe that acting against one's own morals is quite common.

Humans have the ability to justify any behavior by bending, twisting or even changing their own understanding of morality in a way to justify whatever they did. To me this is a bad thing to do. It is self-delusion, and heck; when I do something I know I shouldn't, I figure I should at least own up to it.

When I use the term morality-- I use it to signify what I understand to be right and wrong. For the most part, my behavior matches with this, but it doesn't have to. I can have a strong sense of right and wrong, and still do things I believe are wrong. Or I could do things that you believe are wrong, but in my understanding of morality are "right".