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Cities and Towns of Europe

 
 
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 07:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
But it's not the above ground station(s) they were arguing about, it was how close the train tunnel would come to the church foundation. (I have no opinion, and for all I know they moved the planned tunnel, or got reassured, but I remember being concerned when I read about it, however long ago that was (feels like two or three years).
ossobuco
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 08:07 pm
@ossobuco,
Trying one more photo for Gavorrano, Tuscany, Italy -

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/4632581.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 08:07 pm
@ossobuco,
I understand. The block adjacent to the church was going to be completely demolished for the new entrance to the church. I believe that's where they were planning to have the underground subway station. When I was there a few years ago, that adjacent block still had souvenir, restaurants, and other businesses and probably residences still active. I'm not sure whether they were going to have the entrance at ground level which would require cutting off that street, or underground.
Dutchy
 
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Reply Wed 29 Jun, 2011 09:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hagfors - Sweden

http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2736/hagfors.jpg

eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 07:55 am
@Dutchy,
Innsbruck, Austria.

http://www.wayfaring.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/innsbruck3.jpg
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 08:24 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Jablanica, Bosnia Herzogovina

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/36623/jablanica.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 09:54 am
@ossobuco,
We're talking past each othere here. The subway station would be underground, but the access to street level would be made by stairs, escalators, or elevators. How they access the church (underground level or street level) would determine whether they block off the now existing street as an option.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 10:04 am
@cicerone imposter,
I wasn't interested in the street, I - and the controversy about it all - was going on about the train tunnel(s) being too close to the foundation, thus endangering the stability of the church over time.

Anyway, did you enjoy the church architecture?

Also, a while ago, there was chatter about making Antonio Gaudi a saint. Haven't read about that lately.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 10:09 am
@ossobuco,
As I said, we're talking past each other. I know about the underground problem; that was the first issue.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 10:17 am
Krakow, Poland.

http://travellinggregory.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/800px-krakow_rynek_01.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 10:29 am
@eurocelticyankee,
A note about your picture. That church steeple is where a bugler was blowing his horn to warn that Genghis Khan was approaching their city with his hordes, and an arrow struck his throat whereby the blowing of his horn trailed off. At 3PM every day, they ring the church bells to commemorate that event. The long building is a market place with shops inside. I'll be visiting there again in November.

I found this on andrewlogue.blogspot.
Quote:
. At the top of every hour a trumpeter would emerge from the northern tower of St Mary's Basilica, the city's ancient Gothic church, and blast an ancient war call that according to legend awoke the night guard and saved Krakow from Genghis Kahn's invading army. Listening carefully, you can hear the song end abruptly, for on the night this tradition began the trumpeter was shot through the neck with an arrow, ending his song, and his life.


I thought it was 3PM daily. Smile
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 11:23 am
@eurocelticyankee,
Londonderry, NI, UK

http://www.cruithni.org.uk/abod/abod_6.jpg
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 12:49 pm
Motherwell, Scotland.

http://shop.xyzmaps.com/images/uploaded/lrg_motherwell.31bb50.jpg
fbaezer
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:11 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
Naples, Italy

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Napoli-galleria_umberto.jpg

or:

http://www.groundgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ee08416a-2379-11dd-abd0-15cdc413f2de.jpg
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:26 pm
@fbaezer,
Isn't that Milan?
hamburgboy
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:35 pm
@fbaezer,
oldenburg , germany

 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Schloss_Oldenburg.jpg/643px-Schloss_Oldenburg.jpg
ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:37 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
So, like, was the painter's family from there?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:51 pm
@fbaezer,
I read somewhere recently that the galleria is much deserted re businesses compared to in times past. Probably it was in the NYT frugal traveler column, maybe from a comment. On the other hand, others said the trash wasn't as omnipresent as they had feared (or at least where they saw), and that they still felt Naples is the heart of Italy.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:52 pm
@cicerone imposter,
No - if I get a chance with an M, I'll post some galleria pics from there. Maybe not the first M I run across, since I need to load them to my computer. They're neat photos, if I do say so.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2011 02:56 pm
@ossobuco,
I know my visit to Milan was many years ago, but I remember sitting outside a restaurant in a shopping mall similar to that one and drinking one bottle of red wine while the world past by - while I wrote postcards. Smile
 

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