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PEACE WITH HONOR

 
 
Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 04:25 pm
The Vietnam War
Was over last week
Something to ignore
Nothing so to speak
Ho Chi Minh City
Is on the map now
It's ugly as pretty as before anyhow
It invades my dreams
Inside my head it screams
White ghosts over fields
Of bones piled up in hills
Helicopter wrecked
Surprised nobody checked
Like some drunken whore
Who fell down to the floor
Who was it for
This Vietnam War
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 07:48 pm
The sad war, last night on NPR I heard a tape of LBJ discussing his reasoning regarding the war in Viet Nam, it was dreadful to hear his words. He never ever thought we would prevail. Why did I continue?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:00 pm
During the campaign of '64 Goldwater and LBJ spoke in private. "You know, Lyndon, we are going to lose 40,000 men over there." "I know; but I have an election to win." As you remember, LBJ ran as the peace candidate. Remember the slogan: "Goldwater in '64, hot water in '65, coldwater in '66, no water in '67"? And the little girl in the anti Goldwater commercial, holding a flower, just before the nuclear mushroom.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:03 pm
Yes very clearly and my hopes were pinned to an LBJ win then I realized it did not matter. However, after visitng the LBJ library and the ranch I realize he paid dearly for hsi error.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:06 pm
LBJ was a proud vainglorious man. It broke his spirit so, I have always been of the opinion it was the major reason he did not live long thereafter.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:28 pm
I agree he finally saw the truth of what happened and it broke his heart. He had done so much for this country we, the citizens of the US have much better lives because of LBJ, but he was lost and afraid as President. If only he had stayed where he was most effective, Congress.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:38 pm
I learned an almost affection for him, once he quit the bombing and agreed to not seek re-election.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:46 pm
The night he announced he would not run again was almost as shocking as the death of JFK. I will never forget the look in his eyes, agony. It took a brave man to give up the Presidency, more likely than not he would have been re-elected as war time presidents usually are. Hmm, wonder what would have happened without Nixon.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 08:50 pm
I believe LBJ assumed the war would shortly come to an end once he stopped the bombing. I know I did. Nixon was a nefarious character who decided he could bomb them into submission, which widened the war and caused so many more needless deaths. And for what? So the cameras could catch the last helicopter out of Saigon for the evening news.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 09:00 pm
When the Vietnamese arrived at Camp Pendleton I was their working for SSA at the time. It was so awful those first to escape where without hope and afraid. Even though it was May they were freezing and the Marines provided them with the smallest fatigues they could find but these small people were still swiming in the clothes. It was a depressing experience all and all.
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JoanneDorel
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 09:01 pm
But worst were the soldars coming home in 72' on the C-130s with no one to greet them and not a word of praise. It was not even covered that much on TV.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 30 Nov, 2002 09:13 pm
As much as I hated that war, my ire was always aimed at the perpetrators (the politicians) never at the people who served from a sense of duty. In fact, before I learned what it was about I was about to re-enlist to serve there also.
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