Parental license

The tests will be on numerous levels. Basic scenarios, poison-container directional-path tests and so on.

The Superior document The Manifesto of Forbidden Truth: A devastating dissection of the evil and insane societal myths, lies, rituals, and perversions of early 21st century humanity. outlines such proposals under the child-abuse essay. Read it.

That is where you are also wrong. A parental licencing test would be able to determine exactly who is likely to abuse children. Your inadequate "screw-up" term betrays your total personal support for child-abuse.

Although some failed parents would NOT have abused their children, it is neccesary to do this to prevent child abuse. There is no legitimacy in Truth to child-ownership / family unit structure.

Very rarely are they called, and even much rarer do they do anything about it.

Strawman. There is no suggestion of punishing parents in the OP.

Your suggestion that "without evidence" there is nothing to do is simply a dishonest form of creating a rigged system to child-abuse can occur. There is plenty to do, and that needs to be done, to both protect children and investigate parents.

Yo have to admit, under the current system child-abuse is rampant. It is at plague propertions. Simply google "USA child abuse rampant" or any other ountry, and you will see how rampant it is.

You did not even read the OP, let alone understand the material. How can you honestly agree with him then? Little sir-echo again.

Jog on Mr 'I hate the world'. You're inadequate and inferior ability to show compasion blinds you at every turn.

I read the OP, I just don't agree with you, it isn't in the rule book that I have to is it?

Deluded muppet. Your 'Society' will never ever even remotely be considered, simple reason, something you clearly lack, is there is no love in it. You cannot hope to bring up children under the constraints you place on the parents. As someone who would sooner see their child die (if they had one) than themselves, you really are not qualified to make any sort of judgement call or implement a test which determins who a parent should be.

Your a sick man Holy Seer, I suggest you seek help.

The solution to you're problem is old and has been explored in comunal parenting,

aka state child raising and indoctrination which has resulted in failure on all counts.

Be it chinese one child policy and coupling license, hippy,socialist,kibbuz,lebensbrun,khmer rouge style or other experiments in parenting and political coupling licencing by state or ideology guidance.Be carefull what you wish for.

Bit to close to eugenics trapdoor.(dont get me wrong there)

As maturity there is no guidance as cultural differences go.Plenty of old fools around.

In the aspect of childrens rights to whatever is considered proper parents,its the gamble of who you are born to in this somewhat messy procreation system.

What you are seeking is probably a test similar to adoptive parenting testing for fitness and eligibility for all couples.

Planned reproduction in the states hands no thanks.Does a love meter come into the equation.

Bad parenting by what standards?Emotional,financial,cultural,single,gender oriented,political orientation,racial,abusive,IQ,or plain incompetent.
Keep the Nanny state/society out of the womb.Make parenting socio economically easier by funding education and childcare facilities plus more child protection agency support.

The poison container as such is inevitable as soon as input is received,chidren dont always follow their parents and most turn out quite functional and can use their own mind to make life choices.

Plenty of chances for counter indoctrination are available,when seeked.

I think you need a shorter title.

I did not make the title, although I think it is perfect.
You have failed to answer to the details put before you. You have lost.

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So you want to remove children from their parents on the basis that they "might" screw up? I take it "innocent until proven guilty" means nothing to you.

There are many humans who simply dont make the grade to be parents. The child must NOT and CANNOT be allowed to be endangered by society simply because of the selfish whims of irresponsible and ill-equipeed would-be primary care-takers.

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I disagree, and probably the only one with any real experience in this subject, having worked with foster children since I was a young child.

You would disagree, you are a supreme inferior who rejects and hates Truth.

There is total overwhemling evidence that :
A) Children are being abused en-masse in societies worldwide.
B) Child protection is a a total failure.

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Taking a parent's child away isn't a punishment?

No, it is not. It is simply a logical action to protect the child from harm. Only a brainwashed human would presume that a child was the owned property of the biological creators.

Your presumption in your text is very evident. A child is NOT the property of the parent. It is not a certain person's child.

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Of course there is, but your proposed solution is absurd, it sounds like something out of 1984.

You say "of course there is", where as just two posts ago you claimed the opposite. Amazing.

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Yes, there is a problem with child abuse. the best way to fight child abuse is to prevent it by dissolving the conditions that cause it.....like alcoholism and poverty. etc.

These conditions do NOT cause child-abuse. They contribute to it.

The caused are :
1) The family unit structure.
2) The societal policy of allocating children as poison-containers/slaves and being worthless and inferior to adults.
3) The cathartic need to abuse other human beings created by the structures of human society.

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Your solution causes more harm than good.

Incorrect. My solution solves the problem, and virtually eliminates child abuse. You just cannot accept the solution, because it challenges family-unit-mythology that your society brainwashed you into blindly accepting.

Fatal_Freedoms;68717 wrote:

I think you need a shorter title.

I did not make the title, although I think it is perfect.
You have failed to answer to the details put before you. You have lost.

Oh, okay whatever you say. I've responded to your idiotic sensationalistic rantings. But I lost....according to you, the person i'm arguing with. Ha!

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There are many humans who simply don't make the grade to be parents. The child must NOT and CANNOT be allowed to be endangered by society simply because of the selfish whims of irresponsible and ill-equipeed would-be primary care-takers.

And who is grading them?

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You would disagree, you are a supreme inferior who rejects and hates Truth.

Good response! I rebut your claim and the response I get is that I hate the truth.

You are so committed to your own view that you cannot even accept the fact that you might be wrong.

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There is total overwhemling evidence that :
A) Children are being abused en-masse in societies worldwide.
B) Child protection is a a total failure.

Oh, more claims. that burden of proof must be getting pretty heavy by now. Do you have any evidence?

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No, it is not. It is simply a logical action to protect the child from harm. Only a brainwashed human would presume that a child was the owned property of the biological creators.

You are obviously not a parent. You obviously don't understand the parent child relationship. For many parents, losing their child is worse than death.

You honestly don't see how taking a child away form their parent can cause problems.

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Your presumption in your text is very evident. A child is NOT the property of the parent. It is not a certain person's child.

Putting words in my mouth?

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You say "of course there is", where as just two posts ago you claimed the opposite. Amazing.

Umm....no...

Not sure where you're getting that from.

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These conditions do NOT cause child-abuse. They contribute to it.

The caused are :
1) The family unit structure.
2) The societal policy of allocating children as poison-containers/slaves and being worthless and inferior to adults.
3) The cathartic need to abuse other human beings created by the structures of human society.

Oh, goodie, more claims.

So where is this evidence?

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Incorrect. My solution solves the problem, and virtually eliminates child abuse. You just cannot accept the solution, because it challenges family-unit-mythology that your society brainwashed you into blindly accepting.

Family units exist in nature....

so you fail.

Holy seeker, you are still not factoring in three fundemantal parts of parenting. Campassion, Love and Caring. Whether you argree with it or not children tend to grow up into people like you with out these experiences.

With 6 Billion holy seekers, the world would be an extremely depressing and violent place to live.

Still not sure how someone who would sooner see their child die (if they had one) than themselves makes you qualified to make any sort of judgement call or implement a test which determins who a parent should be.