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Another Twisted Belief With The Same Logic As Darwinism Has Now Approved: Fakewinism

 
 
Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 06:20 am
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[SIZE="3"]FAKEWIN - DARWIN[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Fakewin:THIS FICTITIOUS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE WHAT AN UGLY DECEPTION DARWINISM IS. DARWINISM ITSELF IS BASED ON EXACTLY THE SAME FLAWED LOGIC. [/SIZE]
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Numpty
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 06:56 am
@ahmetsecer,
ahmetsecer;62205 wrote:
proto-ghostintermediate ghostalmost complete ghostcomplete ghosthttp://67.15.194.34/Image/atarvin.jpghttp://67.15.194.34/Image/darvin.jpg

[SIZE="3"]FAKEWIN - DARWIN[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Fakewin:THIS FICTITIOUS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN IN ORDER TO EMPHASIZE WHAT AN UGLY DECEPTION DARWINISM IS. DARWINISM ITSELF IS BASED ON EXACTLY THE SAME FLAWED LOGIC. [/SIZE]


Prove it, prove it, prove it. You clearly have no concept of Science if this is the utter drivel you perpetuate. You are on the ropes and the ever diminishing corners your religions hide in are decreasing daily. You have no proof of a god, no physical evidence, eyewitness accounts and certainly no-one who has ever been able catagorical demonstrate that God is anything but a figment of weak willed, ill informed desprate people unable to live a life without thinking they need some sort of phoney guidance.

If this is the rubbish you need to produce, truely you appear to be a desperate person.

(Note to Dattaswami- losing myself Wink)
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2008 09:59 am
@Numpty,
Oh, i see it is a compare contrast metaphor!

whereas Fakewin had no evidence and his supernatural proposition was false Darwin has lots of evidence and his natural proposition is true.


clever. Wink
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Mon 10 Nov, 2008 12:38 pm
@ahmetsecer,
Ghosts... isn't this what religion accepts? Holy spirits and such... souls and the like.

This is not science. This is also the second time that I will ask you not to inject religion into the science forum. Your posts from this point on will be moved if they are religious in nature.

Thanks for playing.
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Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Nov, 2008 10:33 pm
@ahmetsecer,
Speaking of eye-witness accounts, where are those eye-witness accounts of monkeys turning into men or fish into mammals?
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 01:20 am
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62336 wrote:
Speaking of eye-witness accounts, where are those eye-witness accounts of monkeys turning into men or fish into mammals?


Where is it stated that either happened? You won't find a single textbook or paper stating this has ever happened. Moreso, if such things did happen, it would falsify evolutionary biology in one fell swoop.

Congratulations on showing everybody you do not understand what you are debating. :thumbup:
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 05:31 am
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62336 wrote:
Speaking of eye-witness accounts, where are those eye-witness accounts of monkeys turning into men or fish into mammals?


Please, I beg of you, go educate yourself on evolutionary biology before you make a damned fool of yourself. Wink
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 08:54 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;62343 wrote:
Please, I beg of you, go educate on evolutionary biology before you make a damned fool of yourself. Wink


There are eye-witness accounts?
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 09:01 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;62341 wrote:
Where is it stated that either happened? You won't find a single textbook or paper stating this has ever happened. Moreso, if such things did happen, it would falsify evolutionary biology in one fell swoop.

Congratulations on showing everybody you do not understand what you are debating. :thumbup:



"Prove it, prove it, prove it. You clearly have no concept of Science if this is the utter drivel you perpetuate. You are on the ropes and the ever diminishing corners your religions hide in are decreasing daily. You have no proof... (there is no) god, no physical evidence, eyewitness accounts and certainly no-one who has ever been able catagorical demonstrate (the idea) that (there is no) God is anything but a figment of weak willed, ill informed desprate people unable to live a life without thinking they need some sort of phoney guidance."
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 09:08 am
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62349 wrote:
"Prove it, prove it, prove it. You clearly have no concept of Science if this is the utter drivel you perpetuate. You are on the ropes and the ever diminishing corners your religions hide in are decreasing daily. You have no proof... (there is no) god, no physical evidence, eyewitness accounts and certainly no-one who has ever been able catagorical demonstrate (the idea) that (there is no) God is anything but a figment of weak willed, ill informed desprate people unable to live a life without thinking they need some sort of phoney guidance."


Well in order to understand your lack of understanding, you first need to realize that what you ask for is completely laughable. Never does evolutionary biology say that man came from monkeys, nor does it say that mammals came from fish.

Basically what you are asking for is similar to asking for evidence that televisions give birth. See how funny that sounds? That's exactly what you sound like asking such a hilarious question and then trying to use that as evidence against evolutionary biology.

Now, ask for evidence of something evolution actually states and you might get a bit more than uncontrollable laughter directed at you.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 09:50 am
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62349 wrote:
"Prove it, prove it, prove it. You clearly have no concept of Science if this is the utter drivel you perpetuate. You are on the ropes and the ever diminishing corners your religions hide in are decreasing daily. You have no proof... (there is no) god, no physical evidence, eyewitness accounts and certainly no-one who has ever been able catagorical demonstrate (the idea) that (there is no) God is anything but a figment of weak willed, ill informed desprate people unable to live a life without thinking they need some sort of phoney guidance."


AHAHAHAHAHA!!

Use your own posts you plum. When you get your head out of that bible and stop believing in 1700 year old made up stories and join the rest of us in the the land of reality, you might just learn something.

Use some of these links to start the process.

BBC - Schools - KS2 Bitesize Revision - Science

BBC - Schools - KS2 Bitesize Revision - Science - Living things

Welcome to Planet Science

BBC - Science & Nature - Prehistoric Life

BBC - Science & Nature

Start at the begining, a very good place to start, when you learn to write, you begin with A, B, C. When you learn about science you begin with Air, Land and Sea. :thumbup:

(Just like Maria Von Trapp)

Enjoy the links and have fun.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 10:03 am
@ahmetsecer,
The problem here is the lack of separation between what science (and evolutionary biology) says and what the media/creationists/uneducated says. Everybody of course looks at the famous picture of "evolution" and immediately thinks man-from-monkeys. The same goes for transitionals such as Tiktaalik... it conjures ideas that we all *poof*ed from fish.

Those ideas are not only wrong, they fly in the face of what evolutionary biology actually states. If man actually descended from modern monkeys, we'd have to take about a third of the biological journals, papers, texts and data we've collected and send it to the recyclers. Nowhere is such a thing stated. Never has such a thing been stated. Ideas like that are the product of way too much bad moonshine and anti-freeze. Subsequently, the idea that evolutionary biology is fully hinged on chance is also horribly incorrect. Again, never is it stated that evolution is a process of chance... but people see the word "random" and immediately think of throwing a handful of dice. They don't grasp the concept that while they think of this as a game of craps, evolution is more of a game of Yahtzee.

Put simply, evolution is the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators. That's it. It's an incredibly simple mechanism.
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 10:15 am
@Sabz5150,
Sabz5150;62352 wrote:


Put simply, evolution is the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators. That's it. It's an incredibly simple mechanism.


The question is: What provides for the non-randomness?
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 10:18 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;62351 wrote:
AHAHAHAHAHA!!

Use your own posts you plum. When you get your head out of that bible and stop believing in 1700 year old made up stories and join the rest of us in the the land of reality, you might just learn something.



I would say that you have made some pretty unprovable statements of your own.

Or as you might say. "Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!"
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 11:11 am
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62353 wrote:
The question is: What provides for the non-randomness?


The environment.
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 01:00 pm
@Sabz5150,
1- "Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!"

2- And if so, what provided the environment?
Musky Hunter
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 01:06 pm
@Musky Hunter,
"Microevolution would be if you drive your car across town. This has been proven so many times that by now everyone accepts it as true.

Macroevolution would be if you could drive your car all the way to another country. This, as everyone in America knows, is impossible."

This is probably a great example of the problem with Macroevolution. Now that you have driven your car from the United States to Mexico, lets see you drive it to France without some extra help.
Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 07:10 pm
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62365 wrote:
1- "Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!"

2- And if so, what provided the environment?


What did provide the enviroment? enlighten us oh font of all knowledge.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 07:20 pm
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62354 wrote:
I would say that you have made some pretty unprovable statements of your own.

Or as you might say. "Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!"


You obviously didn't take the time to read any of the info on the sites posted. If you had it would have given you a simple grounding in the techniques scientists use to test and and measure their experiments. Once you understand this simple process, you will then begin to understand that every single scientific result has been tested, retested, then tested again by countless individuals, independant of each other all coming to the same conclussions.

This is how we 'Prove it, Prove it, Prove it'. It really is that simple and the sort of stuff Primary and Secondary school children learn all the time over hear. It's part of their curriculum.
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Fri 14 Nov, 2008 09:13 pm
@Musky Hunter,
Musky Hunter;62365 wrote:
1- "Prove it! Prove it! Prove it!"

2- And if so, what provided the environment?


Prove the environment is the non-random part of evolutionary biology?

Sure thing!

Take a group of creatures... let's go with a group of fish as an easy example. Some are big, some are small. Some swim faster than others. Some are very colorful, others not so much.

The all live in the same lake. They all have to hide from predators, find food, find mates, etc. in the same space as their buddies.

Easier than advertised.

The environment itself is provided by the Earth. Temperature variation is based upon location, as is seasonal activity and weather patterns. That's easy as well.

Any other questions?
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