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Reply Sun 18 Jan, 2009 03:46 am
The Us Supreme court rules is a 5-4 decision that overrules the Exclusionary rule which doesn't allow evidence that was attained by violating the 4th amendment. The decision was made straight down party lines unfortunately.

Even more unfortunate is that this never made major news headlines. :eek:
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Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 10:45 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Reply to Fatal_Freedoms

The Us Supreme court rules is a 5-4 decision that overrules the Exclusionary rule which doesn't allow evidence that was attained by violating the 4th amendment. The decision was made straight down party lines unfortunately.

This is an informative port, with Truth-relevancy.

In practicle reality, this was already happening all the time. In My court cases, this also happened. A currect court case, where My vehicle was searched, was done so illegally. The officer, amazingly, admitted just that in his own witness statement, using the exact words "I knew I had absolutely no legislative right or reason to search his vehicle".

Am I expecting the court to uphold it's legal rights claims? Of course not. The reason why all these "admissibility" rules were originally invented was actually because the societal leaders worried that the law might be used against them.

This just shows you that the justice system is not intrested in the rights of any individual. It only prentends to be, based on the level it thinks it can create an illusion of decency and get away with it.

Even more unfortunate is that this never made major news headlines. :eek:
If this is so, that reveals that they knew it was a shoddy and illegitimate ruling.

All US Supreme court judges are actually direct representatives of the osicetal leadership of thier respective society. They are societal whores.

However, we must also acknowledge that even before this decision, the US supreme court never had one iota of legitimacy to it in the first place.
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mimidamnit
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 04:26 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
if you are guilty.. and evidence shows that you are without a doubt guilty.. then i dont think it should matter that your rights were violated.. if it will put you where you belong.. then you deserved to get caught.. regardless of how they obtained that evidence.. ever hear of gut instinct.. you may say you're superior.. but you're not invisible.. he didnt have a right under the law to search you.. but he felt he should.. and if that evidence proved your guilt.. it should be admissible.. it is after all his job. how can you cry for the law.. when it suits you.. and then say that the law is all lies passed by societal leaders out to suppress us? seriously.

let's say your child is murdered.. and the only evidence was obtained before securing a search warrant.. would you care about the technicality.. knowing that your child's bloody clothes were found in his home? or would you stand up and defend him because his 4th amendment rights were violated. if you so strongly believe what you say about society.. then why should you care about this "right" that you have.. granted to you by the society you despise..?

the right to keep private the crime you committed.. hahahahahahahahahahahahahah.. classic!!!!!!
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Aug, 2009 05:29 pm
@mimidamnit,
Reply to mimidamnit :

if you are guilty.. and evidence shows that you are without a doubt guilty..
The law has no legitimacy. Further, what if I am legally not guilty? You cannot obey one law and disobey another, it is inconsistent.

Also, consider the use of the pig-thugs to persecute minority poeple, or independant MP's for political reasons etc. What about "abuse of power" to target gay people by young aggresive cops? Most people have private possessions and a few skeletons in the closet. (Some literally have skeletons in the closet.) You could go to anyone's house and pick something illegal or something that could potentially linked to a crime.

Consider so-called "corrupt cops". Why, if the pig-thugs become above the law...just become one! I have known many crims and murders in real life. I know one younger fellow who became a policeman for the sole purpose of abusing the rights of others and becoming a professional criminal.

I might leave the rest to FFreedoms. I think he can handle it. Since the law has zero Truth-based legitimacy, then I should not make too much comment on this thread.

then i dont think it should matter that your rights were violated..
The law was violated. At the time in question, the law was still in force. (Actually in australia, it is still the law to have a warrant or cause). I have the right. If it is OK to break the law, why can't I? Now, there is no way we are going to agree. But you are not talking about Scorpio here (Dirty Harry I).

if it will put you where you belong.. then you deserved to get caught..
It is all a mistake. I was not doing anything wrong. I just had certain items in My car boot. My use for these items was mis-interpreted.

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Special NOTE : This is getting off topic. If someone would like to discuss My specific case, I suggest they start a new thread.
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regardless of how they obtained that evidence.. ever hear of gut instinct..
There is no law allowing an officer to seach a motor vehicle on gut instinct. No crime was being investigated at the time, a fact he admits.

you may say you're superior.. but you're not invisible.. he didnt have a right under the law to search you.. but he felt he should..
Then the search is illegal.

and if that evidence proved your guilt.. it should be admissible..
I strongly disagree. I notice no reason was forthcoming. The point is that he only got the evidence by breaking the law.

it is after all his job.
It is not his job. His job is defined by the legislation. He was no investigating a crime, responding to a call etc. He pulled Me over and just kept trying to find something to "get Me on", because of TruthMedia.8k.com

how can you cry for the law.. when it suits you.. and then say that the law is all lies passed by societal leaders out to suppress us? seriously.
Yes, the law has no legitimacy in Truth. It is arbitrary. However, even though it is false and arbitrary, and has no business to exist in it's current form, the fact is that it does exist.
Sure, there is no way that society can justify using the law against Me regardless of My action. That is the Truth. But society can hardly admit to that, can it?

Society itself does all the crime actions itself on a greater scale than I could ever do, but just gives it's exact same actions a different label. Somehow that makes it ok?

The Seer of Truth, however, takes advantage of anything he can - like a wild animal. I have no qualms lying through My back teeth to get an advantage. I have no qualms pretending that I believe in god if it will allow Me to manipulate the situation to My advantage. And so I have no qualms demanding society obey the law and stop this lastest and further unjust victimisation of My Superior person.

The law says what they must do : and if you say that the law does not count selectively when it suits you, then I can say the same.

let's say your child is murdered....[SNIP!]
The family unit structure has no legitimacy in Truth. So, if I had children, I would not care. I only look after Me. That is it. Everyone else, including children, can die in pain and I will not lift a finger to help them.

Of course, If I was murdered, then I would cease to exist. So I would not be able to care either way. I imagine that would be cause for you celebration.
mimidamnit
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 12:30 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
no.. not really.. no reason to celebrate the death of another.. but it pains me to hear that you wouldnt care about your children if you had them.. just because the "unit" has no legitimacy. if you did have children.. would you not try to bring them up as you feel you should have been.. without the influence and indoctrination of society?

i dont resent you.. i just dont accept what you say.. i dont pity you.. but i feel for you.

i said in another thread.. that i was going to be nicer to you.. cant remember where i put it.. damnit.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:27 am
@Seer Travis Truman,
Seer Travis Truman;67733 wrote:
The family unit structure has no legitimacy in Truth. So, if I had children, I would not care. I only look after Me. That is it. Everyone else, including children, can die in pain and I will not lift a finger to help them.


EPIC FAIL!!

In this statement alone you bear your soul to everyone. The hurt, pain, isolation, demonisation, lack of love, affection and belonging. Your inabilty to make relationships because of the abuse you suffered, it's all there.

If you ever have the wonderful opportunity to be a father, you will understand the statement you made is complete and utter Bullsh!t. I would happily give my life for my daughter's, obviously I hope I never have to, but if I have to i will.

The bond we have, the love we share, is for me one of the wonders of the world. I think to myself quite often:

I can't believe I am actually allowed to be the father to this beautiful unique person, Mr D**** you are the luckiest man alive.

When you have love like that in your life, you will understand why your statement is wrong.

Edit:- Appologies for going off topic so quickly FF
mimidamnit
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:54 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;67749 wrote:
EPIC FAIL!!

In this statement alone you bear your soul to everyone. The hurt, pain, isolation, demonisation, lack of love, affection and belonging. Your inabilty to make relationships because of the abuse you suffered, it's all there.

If you ever have the wonderful opportunity to be a father, you will understand the statement you made is complete and utter Bullsh!t. I would happily give my life for my daughter's, obviously I hope I never have to, but if I have to i will.

The bond we have, the love we share, is for me one of the wonders of the world. I think to myself quite often:

I can't believe I am actually allowed to be the father to this beautiful unique person, Mr D**** you are the luckiest man alive.

When you have love like that in your life, you will understand why your statement is wrong.

Edit:- Appologies for going off topic so quickly FF


right on numpty.. :thumbup:..
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 08:51 am
@mimidamnit,
Reply to mimidamnit :

but it pains me to hear that you wouldnt care about your children if you had them..
The Superior does not care about anything but itself. Therefore, they do not feel negative emotions because of the misfortune of other life-forms.

just because the "unit" has no legitimacy.
The family unit structure (doctorine), to be more precise.

if you did have children.. would you not try to bring them up as you feel you should have been..
There is no reason why I should do that. I would not "bring them up" at all - in any way - I just would not care. I don't want them.

That is My reality, that is from My True Reality. Seer Charles Manson feels the same way. He has a son. But he never sees him, and when asked, he says he has no interest.

That is not to say your view is not True to you. That's fine if thats your Reality. As LONG AS it is an accurate reflection of your True Reality, not because society told you to, made you fell obligated to.

without the influence and indoctrination of society?
It is impossible to raise any child in an ultra-deseased human society without it being influenced by society. Lets call the kid Jake. Jake would not be Jake, He aint Jake. Jake is a reflection of all of you, and he reflects on all of you.

i dont resent you.. i just dont accept what you say.. i dont pity you.. but i feel for you.
You can feel what you feel. I don't care.

i said in another thread.. that i was going to be nicer to you.. cant remember where i put it.. damnit.
Be "nice". Or find and open up the True malevolent nature that resides within you, that society created in you, and your aggression can gush forth. Or be some other way. I don't care.
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 09:07 am
@Seer Travis Truman,
Reply to Numpty :

Previously stated by Seer Travis Truman :

"The family unit structure has no legitimacy in Truth. So, if I had children, I would not care. I only look after Me. That is it. Everyone else, including children, can die in pain and I will not lift a finger to help them. "

EPIC FAIL!!
Perhaps if you make your text bigger, and add another exclamation mark, it will be even more convincing.

In this statement alone you bear your soul to everyone. The hurt, pain, isolation, demonisation, lack of love, affection and belonging. Your inabilty to make relationships because of the abuse you suffered, it's all there.
Really? Since I plainly state this on My website (Truthmedia.8k), and you have discussed same with Me, why would it be any different?

I do make a distinction, though. I do not feel that now. I also do NOT lack, love, I am My own love. I love Myself, I give My love to Me. So, I do not require the love of others today. The NEED for the love of others is a weakness that Myself, and wild animals do not share with inferior humans. That is not to say we are against receiving love, just wasting it on others.

If you ever have the wonderful opportunity to be a father, you will understand the statement you made is complete and utter Bullsh!t.
You are wrong. The statement was not "ALL fathers must not want thier children/not care about thier children." It was "I would not.....".

I am not refering to anyone else. I was asked by mimidamnit about MYSELF, not anyone else. I cannot answer for her, I cannot answer for you, so do not try and tell Me what My answer is. I know what it is and I told you so. I was honest with Myself in My answer.

I would happily give my life for my daughter's, obviously I hope I never have to, but if I have to i will.
That is because you subconsciously hate yourself and want to die. The idea that you should give your life for someone else's is inferior, and has no legitimacy in Truth.

The bond we have, the love we share, is for me one of the wonders of the world.
The key word being "share". I do not have this weakness, because I love Myself. If your daughter were to die, you would lose your love. If My hypothetical daughter would die, I lose nothing, and I dont; care that she dies.

That is why you care, because you selfishly want her to give you the love you cannot give yourself.

I think to myself quite often: I can't believe I am actually allowed to be the father to this beautiful unique person, Mr D**** you are the luckiest man alive.
What is that supposed to mean? WHo is Mr D? You? Senseless.
If it is you, how can you be the luckiest in some way, when nearly everyone else has the same as you do?

When you have love like that in your life, you will understand why your statement is wrong.
It is not wrong. You are wrong. I repeat : I love Myself. I dont want children, and if I had same I would not care about them. What your NEEDS are is another matter.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 10:57 am
@Seer Travis Truman,
Seer Travis Truman;67760 wrote:

The Superior does not care about anything but itself.


Show no respect or compassion and you shall receive none in return.

A man who cares not of others, is not worth the air he breathes.
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:13 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;67763 wrote:
Show no respect or compassion and you shall receive none in return.

A man who cares not of others, is not worth the air he breathes.


But I did not ask anyone for respect or compassion. Besides, be certain you will get none from Me. I know that I, however, will get it in return, not that I need it. Maybe not from you, but from others. WHY? Look at what you say, you give it out for free.

It is the men who claim to care for others, who tell people that they should care for other, that are suffering from brain dysfunction and are not worthy of the ait that they breathe. These are the human inferiors.
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 01:53 pm
@Seer Travis Truman,
Seer Travis Truman;67775 wrote:
But I did not ask anyone for respect or compassion. Besides, be certain you will get none from Me. I know that I, however, will get it in return, not that I need it. Maybe not from you, but from others. WHY? Look at what you say, you give it out for free.

It is the men who claim to care for others, who tell people that they should care for other, that are suffering from brain dysfunction and are not worthy of the ait that they breathe. These are the human inferiors.


And this is why you will be an outcast. A product of your own undoing. If you fill your heart with malice, happiness will be forever unattainable.
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 03:25 pm
@Fatal Freedoms,
Fatal_Freedoms;67783 wrote:
And this is why you will be an outcast. A product of your own undoing. If you fill your heart with malice, happiness will be forever unattainable.


But that is precisely what I want. I keep telling you : I do not like humans, I don't like society. Therefore, of course I am happy to be an outcast from society.

I am happy with who I am. I love myself, and I would not trade the person I am for anyone else in the world.
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Numpty
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 05:46 pm
@Seer Travis Truman,
Seer Travis Truman;67761 wrote:
Reply to Numpty :

Previously stated by Seer Travis Truman :

"The family unit structure has no legitimacy in Truth. So, if I had children, I would not care. I only look after Me. That is it. Everyone else, including children, can die in pain and I will not lift a finger to help them. "

EPIC FAIL!!
Perhaps if you make your text bigger, and add another exclamation mark, it will be even more convincing.


Maybe :p
Quote:

In this statement alone you bear your soul to everyone. The hurt, pain, isolation, demonisation, lack of love, affection and belonging. Your inabilty to make relationships because of the abuse you suffered, it's all there.
Really? Since I plainly state this on My website (Truthmedia.8k), and you have discussed same with Me, why would it be any different?

I do make a distinction, though. I do not feel that now. I also do NOT lack, love, I am My own love. I love Myself, I give My love to Me. So, I do not require the love of others today. The NEED for the love of others is a weakness that Myself, and wild animals do not share with inferior humans. That is not to say we are against receiving love, just wasting it on others.


You keep trying to convince yourself that. If you have never experienced it with another person, how then can you speak from a point experience? Whether you think you need it or not it's clear to me from reading your posts, you certainly don't understand it.
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If you ever have the wonderful opportunity to be a father, you will understand the statement you made is complete and utter Bullsh!t.
You are wrong. The statement was not "ALL fathers must not want thier children/not care about thier children." It was "I would not.....".

I am not refering to anyone else. I was asked by mimidamnit about MYSELF, not anyone else. I cannot answer for her, I cannot answer for you, so do not try and tell Me what My answer is. I know what it is and I told you so. I was honest with Myself in My answer.

Correct, but read what I said again without anger. I implied that if you had the opportunity to be father you would think differently, you may not, but I 100% believe you will
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I would happily give my life for my daughter's, obviously I hope I never have to, but if I have to i will.
That is because you subconsciously hate yourself and want to die. The idea that you should give your life for someone else's is inferior, and has no legitimacy in Truth.


Really I want to die? Yeah thats it :no: The fact I am prepared preserve life rather than support taking it (as you appear to) demonstrates I am superior. Taking a life in any form benefits no-one, you should understand that better than anyone, seeing as your's was taken from you.
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The bond we have, the love we share, is for me one of the wonders of the world.
The key word being "share". I do not have this weakness, because I love Myself. If your daughter were to die, you would lose your love. If My hypothetical daughter would die, I lose nothing, and I dont; care that she dies.

Self indulfent aren't you? No the bond we share makes me a stronger, better person. I was a bum until i met my wife and we had our daughter. You will not agree of course, but it made me as a man.
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That is why you care, because you selfishly want her to give you the love you cannot give yourself.


No i selfishly want to be a part of this beautiful persons life, it is an honour and a privilidge and something I treasure every day. Something you missed as a child, for that i feel for you. I know you will say you don't give a sh!t, but I have compassion, where you have hate.
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I think to myself quite often: I can't believe I am actually allowed to be the father to this beautiful unique person, Mr D**** you are the luckiest man alive.
What is that supposed to mean? WHo is Mr D? You? Senseless.
If it is you, how can you be the luckiest in some way, when nearly everyone else has the same as you do?

Yeah, I didn't think you would understand this having never experienced it yourself. I believe i am the luckiest man alive, every father who loves their children believes the same, I am sure Mimi as a mother would agree. I have this wonderful person in my life and i treasure every day, I know you won't understand and that I am affraid is your loss.
Quote:

When you have love like that in your life, you will understand why your statement is wrong.
It is not wrong. You are wrong. I repeat : I love Myself. I dont want children, and if I had same I would not care about them. What your NEEDS are is another matter.


Methinks you doth protest too much.
Seer Travis Truman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 08:41 pm
@Numpty,
Reply to Numpty

This is getting too off topic, so I will make this the last reply. Perhaps if you wish to continue you might consider starting another thread.

You keep trying to convince yourself that. If you have never experienced it
This is not a clear and concise answer. "That" and "it" are too vague.

Correct, but read what I said again without anger.
I don't feel anger. Why do you keep presuming that I do? I am cold-headed. That does not have any impact on the Forbidden Truth.

I implied that if you had the opportunity to be father you would think differently, you may not, but I 100% believe you will
So I may, or may not is 100% certain? I know what you said. I would not care. Even if I did, that does not matter to any point made if I would care.

The fact I am prepared preserve life rather than support taking it (as you appear to) demonstrates I am superior.
Not your own. You said you would give your life for someone else's. That does not preserve a life. All you have demonstrated is your total inferiority. (This could become new thread).

Self indulfent aren't you?
All Superiors are.

but it made me as a man.
You were a human male before that. And a Truth-rejecting one at that.

Seer TT L "That is why you care, because you selfishly want her to give you the love you cannot give yourself."

No i selfishly want to be a part of this beautiful persons life
At least you admit it is selfish. All relationships ultimately are, from a Truth-based perspective. The reason you want "part"? IS because you NEED something from her. Like you said, you felt you were nothing before her. My love comes from Me, so it is Superior.

For some reason, this made Me think of the wonderful charactor "Charles Raine" from the film "Passenger 57". Remember how Charles too control of that Cutter guy....by murdering the father after getting him to reveal the names of his children.

If I was Cutter, I would have been unmoved.
Numpty
 
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Reply Sat 8 Aug, 2009 09:01 pm
@Seer Travis Truman,
Seer Travis Truman;67796 wrote:
Reply to Numpty

This is getting too off topic, so I will make this the last reply. Perhaps if you wish to continue you might consider starting another thread.

.


Agreed. I will start a thread when I get back from playing football (soccer)
Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 9 Aug, 2009 05:22 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;67797 wrote:
when I get back from playing football (soccer)


Crazy Brits!

Laughing
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