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Defending Evolution.

 
 
Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 08:06 am
Why is the theory of evolution so relentlessly attacked and demonized? Why do zealots spend so much time trying to destroy it?

YouTube - 6th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism


Creationists of all religions show great distaste towards the theory of evolution not because it challenges belief in god but because it questions the authority of their holy books because to them it is either literally all true or god doesn't exist at all, which is why they expect evolution to account for everything including origin of the universe not just the diversification of life. This is why creationists always link evolution, abiogenesis and the big bang together under the name "evolutionism" as to minimize the sheer amount of scientific work allied against them. But it is difficult even for a young earth creationist to reject all science because it is impossible to deny the understanding and technology that has resulted from science so many will claim to support science or try to include creationism/ID as a science even though the totally reject the scientific method.

Other creationists go on to insist that if evolution were true people would be immoral or even if people believed in evolution they too would be immoral, from that you can understand why they work so hard to dismantle evolution.

I understand the importance of science and the scientific method so i will try to defend evolution.


1. Evolution accounts only for the origin of species not the origin of life.

2. Evolution does not support social darwinism.

3. Evolution being true does not disprove the existence of god or gods.

4. Humans did not come from monkeys, they evolved alongside humans

5. males and females evolve together at the same rate.

6. Evolution does not occur by chance.

7. Evolution has been observed.

8. All fossils are transitional fossils.

9. Not all species evolve at the same rate (if a species is perfectly adapted to their environment and the environment doesn't change the species won't evolve)

10. Disproving evolution would not prove creationism

11. There is no debate in the scientific community of whether evolution occurs or not.

12. The theory of evolution is not perfect and has been altered since darwin introduced it.

13. A theory (in science) is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.

14. A theory in science is the strongest form of explanation.

15. Things cannot be "proved" in physical sciences, only "supported by evidence".

16. An irreducibly complex system has never been found.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Mon 25 Aug, 2008 08:08 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
have any more to add?
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Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 02:37 am
@Fatal Freedoms,
Of course not. They know their lies are just that... lies.


Sorry for the leave, Fatal... had a bit of a vacation. Florida's a nice place when there aren't tropical storms and hurricanes abound.
Numpty
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 03:08 am
@Sabz5150,
Indeed, you should go and look at RED DEVIL and Cambell 'debating' the meaning of one verse in the Bible in the religon section. Very funny.

There's nothing to defend here though FF, merely a simple explanation, which you have done most eloquently.
Sabz5150
 
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Reply Thu 11 Sep, 2008 03:10 am
@Numpty,
Numpty;59408 wrote:
Indeed, you should go and look at RED DEVIL and Cambell 'debating' the meaning of one verse in the Bible in the religon section. Very funny.

There's nothing to defend here though FF, merely a simple explanation, which you have done most eloquently.


Oh boy, Devil's back too?! Alright! I annihilated him too... last thing I remember from him was his 100 billion galaxies, 100 billion stars, creationists can't do math argument.
ahmetsecer
 
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Reply Wed 1 Oct, 2008 05:08 am
@Sabz5150,
[CENTER]http://api.fmanager.net/files/book/pictures/atlas_of_creation.jpg[/CENTER]

Creationist Harun Yahya Offers Prize For Fossil Proof Of Evolution
Monday, 29 September 2008 / The Independent


A controversial creationist who successfully campaigned for Richard Dawkins' official website to be banned in Turkey has offered a multitrillion- pound challenge to scientists.

Harun Yahya (Adnan Oktar) said that he has "issued a call to all evolutionists" that he will give "10 trillion Turkish lira to anyone who produces a single intermediate-form fossil demonstrating evolution" ? a sum roughly equal to ?4.4trn.

The Muslim writer, who uses the pen name Harun Yahya, is a fierce critic of what he calls "the Darwinist dictatorship" and a popular figure in his home country, where ? according to a 2006 survey ? only a quarter of the population believe in Darwin's theory.

The 52-year-old former architecture student, who has been heavily criticised in the West, claims there are no fossils to support Darwinist theories. "Evolutionists are at a dead-end in the face of the fossil record," he said. "Not one [fossil] belongs to strange-looking creatures in the course of development of the kind supposed by evolutionists." However, scientists reject his claims that these fossils do not exist. Dr Kevin Padian at the University of California told The New York Times that Mr Oktar "does not have any sense of what we know about how things change through time. If he sees a fossil crab, he says, 'It looks just like a regular crab, there's no evolution,'" Dr Padian said. "Extinction does not seem to bother him."
Mr Oktar found fame in 2006 when 10,000 copies of his The Atlas Of Creation were distributed worldwide. The 800-page volume illustrated his claims that for millions of years life forms have not developed, supporting his Islamic creationist beliefs.

Richard Dawkins, the British biologist, called the Atlas "preposterous", speaking of "the breathtaking inanity of the content". Mr Oktar responded: "We could have spoken on a more scientific basis if he had been able to produce an intermediate form fossil capable of confirming evolution in the face of all the hundreds of fossils in my book."

Mr Oktar defended Professor Michael Reiss, the British biologist who resigned as the director of education for the Royal Society earlier this month after suggesting that science teachers should consider creationism "not as a misconception but as a world view".

Mr Oktar called it "concrete evidence of the panic Darwinists are experiencing". Earlier this month he successfully brought a case against Mr Dawkins to a Turkish court, claiming that his website contained blasphemous and defamatory content. Internet users in Turkey can no longer access the site.

[CENTER]http://api.fmanager.net/files/author/images/Adnan_Oktar_eylul_2007_01.jpg[/CENTER]
Numpty
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2008 09:36 am
@ahmetsecer,
FAIL, FAIL. FAIL.

Adnan Oktar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh dear, you know if this person actually understod how science worked it may help him.
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Fatal Freedoms
 
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Reply Sun 5 Oct, 2008 09:57 am
@ahmetsecer,


have anything from my list you would like to dispute?
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