I've been saying it all along! Before the big bang...

The theory suggests the possibility of a “quantum bounce,” where our universe stems from the collapse of a previous universe.

So what triggered the bounce? I know, it was the great spaghetti monster in the sky.
I wonder if Corichi and Singh practice religion? They evidently have faith in there theory. So FF, do you believe in there opinion? If you do does that make it fact? Sab thinks so?

So what triggered the bounce? I know, it was the great spaghetti monster in the sky.
I wonder if Corichi and Singh practice religion? They evidently have faith in there theory. So FF, do you believe in there opinion? If you do does that make it fact? Sab thinks so?

Fail again.

Trying to stick faith into science. Looking for the (verb)-er behind it all. Here's a suggestion, bring forth evidence showing that such a being exists, and we'll talk. Until then... well... it's faith.

All this time you've been aiming at ol Charlie D and his Beagle while quantum theory poses the bigger threat to your worldview.

Go LHC! Find that god particle!

Here's a suggestion, bring forth evidence showing that such a being exists, and we'll talk.

All this time you've been aiming at ol Charlie D and his Beagle while quantum theory poses the bigger threat to your worldview.

did you not read the article? It clear states that the bounce was cause by the collapse of a previous universe, it doesn't require much brain power to guess what caused the one before that...

There had to be a cause to come from a finite point, correct?

I don't have to try, faith is there. Like your faith in Darwinism of which you practice everyday.

You think it takes faith to believe there was a trigger, or does science say there was one?

When you prove the big bang wasn't triggered.

What do you think the trigger was, science guy? The big spaghetti monster in the sky?

You claim it's one of the biggest anchors of your beliefs. I think i'm chippin at the right thing.

So on a second note. Big Bang. Caused or uncaused/cause? I anticipate another side step.

Says who? :dunno:

Faith implies belief without evidence.

Science is about natural answers to natural questions. Nothing more, nothing less.

I never said that. That's you trying to use typical creationist rhetoric and failing miserably. Science does not try and refute this "trigger", but it does not allow for a supernatural one.

Again with this "trigger" thing. Let me ask this: What difference does it really make if there was a trigger or not?

Your hypothesis still lacks solid ground because you cannot show evidence or run tests based on YOUR trigger (i.e. God).

The trigger? A phase transition. If you do not know what this is, tough tits.

The result of this phase transition? The Big Bang.

Like chipping at a diamond with a mica hammer. You have no clue what you are talking about, spewing constant and damn near predictable creationist flawed arguments. Guess what? They fail every single time. It is obvious to just about everyone that your science knowledge does not surpass mid-level high school from the 90's and your understanding of scientific terminology and methods is non-existent. Hell, I've had to teach you why you improperly apply YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS* in a debate, after which you went on this rant about the definition of "objectivity" (which you also failed at). That's sad... that is just sad.

Caused by a near instant phase transition. We have evidence of this.

Logic.

I asked if your believed, you said yes. That's all i require.

So what of the un-natural? If you can't see it, it ain't there? Kinda like black matter?

"Science does not try to refute it" What do you think the cause is? No opinion?

"but it does not allow for a supernatural one" Can it discount it 100%?

Ask yourself that, goes against physics don't it?

But yet a trigger occured by your own judgement? And you to will not define nor be able to test your hypothesis, correct? Be it God or spaghetti?

How very scientific of you, i might add that this is very objective of you as well?

You can't explain one, why should i ask about the other.

Do i have to know what i'm talking about? Doesn't appear so.

I seem to keep you runnin in circles fairly easy.

Who's we? And by near, how close is that?