The Legacy of Radical Feminism

@DiversityDriven,

DiversityDriven;58113 wrote:

Townhall.com::The Legacy of Radical Feminism::By Chuck Colson

Ok, so you have posted a quote, what point would you like to make yourself?

@Numpty,

I find some of the feminists with whom I work extremely annoying. I'd like to subject them to 're-education', Pino-style, in one of my Arctic labor camps.

:AR15firing:"ARE YOU NOW, OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN, A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY?" :rocketwhore:

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@Pinochet73,

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@marcus cv,

marcus;58446 wrote:

And what would God's 'Design' be then?

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@Numpty,

Numpty;58453 wrote:

And what would God's 'Design' be then?

Women are as important as men but have different roles.

We generally consider the individual greatness, but in the God's eyes what's more important is the impact we make. You can't hardly find a great man who influenced the society without loving and caring mother, or wife.

Another important aspect to remember that the Holy Spirit in the Bible is called the helper and there is nothing diminishing in it.

I personally think women have lost a lot of their "power" by trying to hard to be men.

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@marcus cv,

marcus;58455 wrote:

Women are as important as men but have different roles.

We generally consider the individual greatness, but in the God's eyes what's more important is the impact we make. You can't hardly find a great man who influenced the society without loving and caring mother, or wife.

Another important aspect to remember that the Holy Spirit in the Bible is called the helper and there is nothing diminishing in it.

I personally think women have lost a lot of their "power" by trying to hard to be men.

I would agree with the first statement, but I know that without the Bible or the influence of it. How does the Bible show what families should be? In my experience all families are different. How is there a 'design' that all should follow, surely it's about love and support not reading a book on 'How to do it'?

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@Numpty,

Numpty;58456 wrote:

I would agree with the first statement, but I know that without the Bible or the influence of it. How does the Bible show what families should be? In my experience all families are different. How is there a 'design' that all should follow, surely it's about love and support not reading a book on 'How to do it'?

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@marcus cv,

marcus;58457 wrote:

I guess it depends on the literature you read and how it is interpreted, nothing in thoses passages specifically refers to family, nor does it say how a family should be made up, conduct itself or survive as a family unit.

What about Lilith though, Adam's first wife, made equal but who he could not dominier so had God cast her out as a Demon and thus have his new wife made from his rib so that he had control over her.

Lilith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lilith, Adam's mythological first wife

Lilith and Eve

This one is quite amusing though

Lilith

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I don't believe that man and woman become one once they got married, that's the process of surrender to each other and growing in love.

This i agree with completely, but still i don't need a Bible to know how to do it.

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@Numpty,

Numpty;58459 wrote:

I guess it depends on the literature you read and how it is interpreted, nothing in thoses passages specifically refers to family, nor does it say how a family should be made up, conduct itself or survive as a family unit

You are right, the view on life depends on what book you believe in. I was referring to the Bible and started from the beginning to show the intent for creation of man and woman. But the Bible has plenty to say about the family, man and woman. Man to love his wife to the point of death (1), wife to love and respect his husband (2), there is no provision for divorce (3). When it comes to role of the women there is a whole chapter of Proverbs 31 dedicated to that.

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What about Lilith though, Adam's first wife, made equal but who he could not dominier so had God cast her out as a Demon and thus have his new wife made from his rib so that he had control over her.

There is no references in the Bible, wiki mentions Isaiah 34:14 with no basis for it: KJV: "The wild beasts of the desert shall also meet with the wild beasts of the island, and the satyr shall cry to his fellow; the screech owl also shall rest there, and find for herself a place of rest."
If Lilith interpreted as screech owl, then who are the rest? You can interpret anyway you can, you can even say that screech owl is the Stature of Liberty in the New York city (maybe be stupid exaggeration but illustrates the point). That passage addressing all humanity and animal world.

There is no mentioning of Lilith in the Bible. And the Bible is very specific on Eve Creation, God made her, and Adam called her Eve when she was brought to Him by God. There is no suggestion for another woman or discontinuity between Eve's creation and the introduction to Adam (4)

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This i agree with completely, but still i don't need a Bible to know how to do it.

I can agree with you on this one, from my first reply: it's not the issue of religion but given to us values.

1) Eph 5:25-27 (there are many more references)
2) Tit 2:4
3) Mal 2:16
4) Gen 2:20-23

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@marcus cv,

Lilith is mentioned in Isa. 34:14, though the KJV renders
lilith as 'screech owl.' This first wife of Adam may safely be
called the world's first uppity woman.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;58476 wrote:

Lilith is mentioned in Isa. 34:14, though the KJV renders
lilith as 'screech owl.' This first wife of Adam may safely be
called the world's first uppity woman.

To me there is not enough evidence to conclude that Lilith was the first wife of Adam based on Isa 34:14. There is only one reference in the Bible to Lilith and it's in that passage. It is referring to something or someone as demonic, and dark. It could be anything.

But if you look on the basis of clarity then the Bible states that Eve was the first wife of Adam:

Gen 3:20 And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve;

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@marcus cv,

marcus;58481 wrote:

To me there is not enough evidence to conclude that Lilith was the first wife of Adam based on Isa 34:14. There is only one reference in the Bible to Lilith and it's in that passage. It is referring to something or someone as demonic, and dark. It could be anything.

But if you look on the basis of clarity then the Bible states that Eve was the first wife of Adam:

Gen 3:20 And the man called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve;

That does not say eve was the first wife. the only way we could truly know is if we knew Hebrew.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;58493 wrote:

That does not say eve was the first wife. the only way we could truly know is if we knew Hebrew.

That's the best time to be equipped in the Bible. There are many tools to read in original Interlinear Bible (one of them).
But overall every major English translation NKJV, KJV, NIV, ESV are acceptable translation by Christian and Jewish scholars.

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@marcus cv,

marcus;58495 wrote:

That's the best time to be equipped in the Bible. There are many tools to read in original Interlinear Bible (one of them).
But overall every major English translation NKJV, KJV, NIV, ESV are acceptable translation by Christian and Jewish scholars.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/ehrman.jpg

You should really look into this book.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;58551 wrote:

You should really look into this book.

Thanks, I will!

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