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Christians Condone Pedophilia

 
 
FedUpAmerican
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 02:48 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42228 wrote:
sounds like they're obstructing justice to me


Hence Christians Condone Pedophilia
Silverchild79
 
  1  
Thu 18 Oct, 2007 03:16 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;42242 wrote:
Hence Christians Condone Pedophilia


no, because it's against the docturine of faith for Christanity

a correct title would be "People calling themselves Christians condone Pedophilla"
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Silverchild79
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 03:17 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
it's the same as the fact that Al Qeada isn't Muslim because Islam is a religion of peace, they just call themselves Muslim
SWORD of GOD
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 03:24 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42247 wrote:
it's the same as the fact that Al Qeada isn't Muslim because Islam is a religion of peace, they just call themselves Muslim

Thats' not sensible. We are not talking here about ordinary bad persons (as there are bad persons in every community and religion) but rather we are talking about PREISTS. Those -priests- are considered by you christians as Men of God!

[SIZE="3"]The Reason Behind Preists' Gayness and Pedophilie Scandals[/SIZE]


Priests know in the bottom of their hearts that their fabricated Christian faith has no bases (as it had been corrupted), therefore, they lost truthful faith in the True God, The Creator, and accordingly gayness and child molestation spread widely in Churches worldwide. They let their evil lust and desires to twist and distort the words of Jesus in their own bible. They choose to worship a Man (Jesus) rather than God (The Creator).

The following biblical passages talk about this reason in crystal clear words:

I urge you to read the following passages in your own bible carefully:


NAS [Romans 1:21- 31]:
For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing to be wise, they became fools,

and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.

For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural,

and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.

And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips,

slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,

without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful;

and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them
Silverchild79
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 03:31 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;42249 wrote:
Thats' not sensible. We are not talking here about ordinary bad persons (as there are bad persons in every community and religion) but rather we are talking about PREISTS. Those -priests- are considered by you christians as Men of God!


nope, sorry. at least not me. "Man of God" is granted by works not by title
mlurp
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 03:41 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
I believe the pope stated that any other but the Catholic Church, was not Christians and we all alread know the Preist like little boys. So why attack all Christians because the Catholic Church say anything?
SWORD of GOD
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 06:12 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42252 wrote:
nope, sorry. at least not me. "Man of God" is granted by works not by title


You are in a clear state of denial. The sex scandals and child molestation involve your Churches worldwide and the Vatican. You can deny and lie to yourself but you can not hide or distorst the reality. Wake up..it's your Church that's corrupted and involved in those scandals.

And the origianl source is your corrupted bible that condone such acts and condone raping:

When Lot was a very old man, he had sex with his daughters on two succesive nights, and both daughters became pregnant (Genesis 19:31-38)

God didn't like that, so he punished David by having all his wives raped in public!(II Samuel 11:2-12:12).
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mlurp
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 06:22 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42252 wrote:
nope, sorry. at least not me. "Man of God" is granted by works not by title


Take that up with the pope as it won't fly here. Yes actions speak louder than words,your right on that. But opinions hasn't changed the Catholic Church and it's titles.

And Sword of God, I think it was the daughters that started it all not Lot. I read that and wonder why they never missed their mother even if she defied God.
Silverchild79
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 06:26 pm
@mlurp,
SWORD of GOD;42281 wrote:
You are in a clear state of denial. The sex scandals and child molestation involve your Churches worldwide and the Vatican. You can deny and lie to yourself but you can not hide or distorst the reality. Wake up..it's your Church that's corrupted and involved in those scandals.


mlurp;42284 wrote:
Take that up with the pope as it won't fly here.


sorry guys I don't recognize any church, the pope, or the vatican as personal spiritual leaders for myself. You obviously haven't read about my religious views

http://www.conflictingviews.com/t1938/
SWORD of GOD
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 08:51 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42285 wrote:
sorry guys I don't recognize any church, the pope, or the vatican as personal spiritual leaders for myself. You obviously haven't read about my religious views

http://www.conflictingviews.com/t1938/



You can not deny that your corrupted bible is the spiritual/faith source and inspiration for you. Otherwise you are practicing your own made faith!!

Your inspiring bible (corrupted) condones girls having sex with their fathet and it condones raping:

And the origianl source is your corrupted bible that condone such acts and condone raping:

When Lot was a very old man, he had sex with his daughters on two succesive nights, and both daughters became pregnant (Genesis 19:31-38)

God didn't like that, so he punished David by having all his wives raped in public!(II Samuel 11:2-12:12).
mlurp
 
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Thu 18 Oct, 2007 10:16 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42285 wrote:
sorry guys I don't recognize any church, the pope, or the vatican as personal spiritual leaders for myself. You obviously haven't read about my religious views

http://www.conflictingviews.com/t1938/


Your views aren't important the post needed a reply. And am I wrong?
And if your going to hide behind that answer then don't post about religion. Just a suggestion. An opinion nothing more. Heck like I care anyway.
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 07:27 am
@mlurp,
mlurp;42256 wrote:
I believe the pope stated that any other but the Catholic Church, was not Christians and we all alread know the Preist like little boys. So why attack all Christians because the Catholic Church say anything?


You think that the Catholics are the only ones molesting children?

That simply is not true and if you want some proof I would be happy to provide it for you.
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Whatever cv
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 07:43 am
@westernmom,
westernmom;33601 wrote:
FedUp,

There you go again lumping all Christians together instead of the one that committed the crime.

I was told as a young woman leader in my church that if I ever suspected abuse of any kind that I had 24 hours to report it to the authorities - meaning law enforcement - or I would also be held accountable.

Working for the school district they never told us anything like that. Now you can lump schools in with Christianity! There are many, many more stories of school teachers abusing children.

It must never be sanctioned or protected by anyone or anything. Harming a child is unforgivable.


Is it so much lumping them all together or getting awful tired of those who claim to be practicing Christ's teaching keeping quiet? I mean, we hear a lot of screams from the right about "Where are the Muslims in condemning the terrorists?" but seldom if ever have we seen in the last almost 30 years of radical fundamental Christian beliefs any Christian church come out condemning the attempts to destroy our constitution, stop the hatred on Muslims and gays...the silence is what gives the impression of endorsing, don't you think?
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Silverchild79
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 09:13 am
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;42312 wrote:
You can not deny that your corrupted bible is the spiritual/faith source and inspiration for you. Otherwise you are practicing your own made faith!!


Yet Mohammad married an 8 year old girl, how is that any different?
FedUpAmerican
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 10:46 am
@FedUpAmerican,
Its different because we are discussing Christians condoning pedophiles. Just because Mo married an 8 year old does that take away the seriousness of Christian pedophiles?
markx15
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 11:43 am
@FedUpAmerican,
Quote:
You can not deny that your corrupted bible is the spiritual/faith source and inspiration for you. Otherwise you are practicing your own made faith!!


What would be the problem of him practicing his own made faith?
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Silverchild79
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 12:20 pm
@FedUpAmerican,
FedUpAmerican;42352 wrote:
Its different because we are discussing Christians condoning pedophiles. Just because Mo married an 8 year old does that take away the seriousness of Christian pedophiles?


I'm not sure I understand, where exactly did I defend pedophilia?
FedUpAmerican
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 01:55 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42365 wrote:
I'm not sure I understand, where exactly did I defend pedophilia?


You didn't. Where exactly did I say you did?
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SWORD of GOD
 
  1  
Fri 19 Oct, 2007 04:39 pm
@Silverchild79,
Silverchild79;42340 wrote:
Yet Mohammad married an 8 year old girl, how is that any different?


First, I would like to educate you then I will ask you a simple question.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha (may Allah bless her) when she was 9 years old. 1400 years ago that was a norm. Before she got married to the Prophet (peace be upon him) Aisha was engaged to another man but as that man refused to be a Muslim, her parents broke that engagement. None of the Prophet's enemies during his time criticized Him for that marriage because it was a norm as I said.

Now, the following are historical facts that you may not heard of:

(1) Forty years ago, the renowned sexologist R.E.L. Masters and Allan Edwardes said in their study of Afro-Asian sexual expression (_The Cradle of Erotica_, Julian Press, New York:1962) said, "Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty."


(2) A girl must be 12 years old for marriage, but a 3-year old may be betrothed with the father's approval. As for the permissibility of marriage to a minor (katanah) by coition.
(Talmud) (the Code of Jewish Law)

(3) the age of consent in the USA was 10 hardly 100 years ago and 11 in the UK, Talmud allowing 3 year olds to get married!

The age of sexual consent is still quite low in many places. In Japan, people can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12. (This data comes from the Age of Consent chart, which you can see at: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm)

Women and Social Movements in the United States, 1600-2000

In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. (and in one state, Delaware, the age of consent was only seven). California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too. (Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/numberone.htm)
Source: Women and Social Movements in the United States, 1600-2000

(4) Mary (the mother of your falsely claimed God) was 12 years old when she married Joseph who was 90 (ninety) years old then as stated by the Catholic Encyclopedia. Check here CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: St. Joseph



[SIZE="3"]Now my Question to you:[/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]How come you criticize the Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) for marrying a 9 years old girl which was a norm during his time, but your twisted brain approves and accepts the nonsense paganism idea of your falsely claimed God being in the womb of an 11 years old girl (Mary) for nine months!!!? [/SIZE]
Silverchild79
 
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Fri 19 Oct, 2007 05:27 pm
@SWORD of GOD,
SWORD of GOD;42389 wrote:
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) married Aisha (may Allah bless her) when she was 9 years old. 1400 years ago that was a norm. Before she got married to the Prophet (peace be upon him) Aisha was engaged to another man but as that man refused to be a Muslim, her parents broke that engagement. None of the Prophet's enemies during his time criticized Him for that marriage because it was a norm as I said.

[SIZE="2"]How come you criticize the Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) for marrying a 9 years old girl which was a norm during his time, but your twisted brain approves and accepts the nonsense paganism idea of your falsely claimed God being in the womb of an 11 years old girl (Mary) for nine months!!!? [/SIZE]


and three thousand years ago it was normal to stone your children for disobedience, but just like having sex with 9 year olds, god doesn't want us doing that either. Not today, not tomorrow, not 1400 years ago

I have not defended Child Abuse. People who abuse children, including Catholic Priests and Mohammad, should be in prison. Those who hide them away from justice should be in prison, and those who defend them should be in a loony bin. I just refuse to condemn all Christians based on the actions of some. At some level every church is atonomis, and so is every person of faith

and there is no proof Mary was 11 when she conceived. the oldest Gospel in existence on earth was written in 125CE, 100 years after the birth of Jesus
 

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