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7? Reasons Not to Have Sex in Union Station's Bathrooms

 
 
Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 12:21 am
Washington City Paper: Cover Story: 7? Reasons Not to Have Sex in Union Station's Bathrooms

7? Reasons Not to Have Sex in Union Station's Bathrooms
Sen. Larry Craig is alleged to have engaged in oral sex in a Union Station stall. He didn't climax. No surprise there.

By Jason Cherkis
Posted: September 12, 2007

There?s only one story in the saga of Sen. Larry Craig that involves actual dick-sucking, and it happens to be set in Union Station.

The tale involves an anonymous 40-year-old ex-Republican. Since August of 2004, this man has claimed?in digitally altered audio, of course?to have had a very frustrating few minutes with the senator in Union Station?s men?s rooms. He alleged that he twice tried to get it on with Craig. In both instances, the trysts were interrupted when the stalls started filling up.

But still. Just about every news organization from MSNBC to the Washington Post has picked up the story. They generally hide behind an attribution to a suddenly famous blogger, Mike Rogers, who has reported extensively on these aborted hookups. At this point, pretty much any piece on the Craig situation must reference the train-station-restroom moment, as in this recent piece from the Post: ?Rogers disclosed in October that he had spoken with men who said they?d had sexual encounters with Craig, including in the restrooms at Union Station.?

The reportorial overkill has amped up the romance factor at Union Station. Imagine the thrill of it?getting off in a nearly 100-year-old historic building with its 96-foot-high barrel-vaulted, coffered ceilings adorned with 70 pounds of 22-karat gold leaf. There?s fast food too, so you get a blowjob and Sbarro. Sexy.

Wrong. There are other places to take up Craig?s legacy. Safer places. Cleaner places. Places with just as much historic significance. We?re talking park land. Go wide-stance it in the great outdoors.

Union Station is not for amateurs.

1. The Kid Factor

?Uncle Steve? Where are you?? a boy says from a stall.

?The middle,? replies?I?m guessing?Uncle Steve.

?I?m here,? the boy says. ?Are you the one with the key [ring]?? he asks.

?Yes,? Uncle Steve says. ?See the one???

?That?s you?? the boy says.

?That?s me,? Uncle Steve says.

Kids go to Union Station. It?s a fact. They are tourists. They are hanging out at the food court or the shitty movie theater. Kids go to the bathroom. When kids go, they?re not quiet about it. They will insist on talking to Uncle Steve, or they?ll gasp at the sight of a badly picked stall. Kids will do play-by-play. They will complain about the poop and the smell. That?s what kids do.
(Photograph by Darrow Montgomery)

A 38-year-old man who wants to be called ?Charlie? tells me one night while sitting alone at DC Eagle, a bar on New York Avenue NW, that he?s been arrested three times for messing around in public?in Mesa, Ariz., Long Beach, Calif., and Arlington. He doesn?t seem to care about his criminal record. He says he?s a ?socialist? and just likes the thrill of ******* in public. But Union Station, Charlie says, is off-limits. ?No one does it there,? he claims. ?Because it?s full of breeders and kids. Who wants to get hard in front of kids??

There are two public men?s rooms?the Gate A bathroom is upstairs; the other is downstairs near the Johnny Rockets.

It?s around 9 p.m. in the food-court stalls. A boy and his father take up the stall next to me. The kid starts goofing off, drawing a reprimand from Dad. ?No means no,? says the father. A lesson for us all?

2. Passengers Prefer to Dump at the Station

I am being cruised.

Our eyes catch for a second. I am washing my hands for no real reason. He?s staring up from a urinal.

He is wearing jeans, an all-american jersey T-shirt, and a ballcap fixed over his short brown hair. He has an empty-looking backpack slung over his shoulders like it?s the first day of school.

He follows me out onto Union Station?s concourse and walks to the nearest trash can.

Pause.

He walks past a row of empty seats.

Pause.

He walks past where I am standing outside Hudson News.

Pause.

And then he disappears back into the Gate A men?s room.

A minute or two passes before he is back outside pausing among the tourists, commuters, and homeless crowding the concourse. This time, Backpack Boy stands 5 feet from me, inside Hudson News. He could stare at the floor-to-ceiling rack of Harry Potter books or back at the bathroom?s comings and goings. He stares at the bathroom, goes back inside and parks it at his original urinal.

Maybe he?s killing time before boarding the 8:30 Regional to New York. Maybe he?s waiting to pick up his girlfriend. It?s possible he?s working off his Sbarro.

Or he could just be cruising.

I jot down the action in my notebook. Before I can finish, the guy disappears. Game over. There are just too many people around.

People still like to ride trains, despite the cost and the Acela debacle and the fact that the bagel with cream cheese is a stale bagel with cream cheese. They believe in Amtrak?s ?All Aboard? slogan and cheesy train names like the California Zephyr, the Texas Eagle, and the Empire Builder. Until we Americans invent a teleporter or solve the traffic problem, 32 million people will continue to pass through Union Station each year.

From 7:30 to 7:40 p.m. on this night, 28 men go to the Gate A restroom.

Even when Union Station appears dead, the bathroom is not. Between 8:45 and 8:55 p.m. on a Wednesday, the Gate A stalls receive 22 visitors, a lot of them still wearing Hill laminates around their necks. And half the stalls were closed down for their daily scrubbing.

This ain?t like the attendance for that last workforce protections subcommittee hearing. Bathrooms are different. Everyone has to go sometime.

No matter how much you want to hook up, the odds are just daunting.

Take Backpack Boy. Chances are he didn?t succeed that night, and he seems like an experienced cruiser. I noticed him only because I?m assigned to camp out there. To take notes and stuff. Maybe he was another reporter.

3. You Will Get Pee on Your Kenneth Coles

In Union Station?s stalls, there are tons of excuses to get handsy. Just look down.

A large black comb wrapped in what appears to be used TP, a Miller Lite can three-quarters empty, a plastic bottle of Smirnoff premium ?triple distilled? vodka (one swig left), one bag of cheddar-flavored Goldfish (unopened!), one pair of jeans (dirty), one stubbed cig, a H?agen-Dazs soda cup (empty), one giant TP donut, and one turd smear.

Some people complain. Like the guy at the urinal across from me on a Saturday night: ?Damn. Faggot ****. ****. Ahh, ****.?Nasty ************.?

Then I hear the sound of spit hitting urinal water. A moment later, the guy who takes the stall next to mine says:

?**** out on the toilet seat. Can?t they [have] respect for what they do?? He toughs it out in that stall.

Still horny?

4. You Will Hurt

You want instant gratification? There?s no instant gratification here. You?re gonna have to wait. That means squatting in a stall.
(Photograph by Darrow Montgomery)

I take one on the Wednesday after the Labor Day holiday?more than enough time for lonely dudes to get horned-up, I figure. At the food-court bathroom, all the good stalls are taken. There are five. I?m left with the one that doesn?t flush. Lucky me, there are no floaters and only limited pee splash on the seat. I wipe it down thoroughly and take up my position. It?s 5:05 p.m., just in time for the commuter rush. I?m feeling lucky.

Seven minutes in, my feet start to tingle and go numb, like they?re made out of Nerf. The guy in the stall to my left is popping pills. The guy to my right is doing some serious toe-curling. I start longing for the sound of the hand dryer. The hand dryer is my friend, my little white noise machine. It has the power to drown out both sound and smell.

Someone yells through the door: ?R?pido!? then claps his hands. This is met with sniffles and moans. **** you, man. We?re working here.

Fifteen minutes in. I can?t feel my feet at all. I try to shake the ice out of my right foot. Instead, the numbness spreads up my calf.

After a half-hour, I get the idea I should stand up and stretch.

Immediately, I get the sensation of falling. I come within an inch of dipping ass into the bowl. At the last moment, I grip the top of the stall door. Notebook and other stuff fall on the floor, inches from pee drops and toilet paper nubbin.

I start to get concerned that the guy next to me is jerking off. He stopped pissing a long time ago. Yet he is still in the stall, feet facing the toilet. I can see his hairy toes through his sandals. There is the curling, still, and a final intensity. After a while, I start to get paranoid. Every sound, every movement seems dirty. Why are they leaving me out of the good times?

Hairy Toes, a few minutes later, is back in his stall. I hear a soft, sputtery trickle, and then he?s gone. He doesn?t wash his hands. My left foot is an ice block. My forehead starts to sweat.

After nearly an hour, I discover several peepholes.

The TP rack must have been there. Now it?s just the holes where the screws were. I can see into the next stall. This occupies some time. A bonus.

I see a sunset of TP and then pants, then fumbling of pants and a blur of arm and arm hair. No dick. No blowjob.

Ten minutes later, I realize farts can travel through peepholes. It is overwhelming. For several seconds, I can?t breathe. Or rather, choose not to.

After an hour and a half, I have to get up. I do so slowly this time?lesson learned. I do lunges, pressing my right foot against the back of the toilet. Then I do left foot against the toilet. I do mini windmills. I skip the part where I touch my toes. I?m feeling better.

I hear a cop?s radio: ?All agents ready. Stand by.? I think they?ve found me. Another 15 minutes go by before I notice that my heart is racing, the pain in my right foot has spread to my butt cheeks. Claustrophobia kicks in. I remind myself that the slit between stall and door is maybe the diameter of a dime.

Amid boredom and paranoia, I start thinking about Hairy Toes and how sandals are just a bad idea. I am alone except for the sound of water running from a sink.

A janitor arrives. I sit up, peel the streamer of TP off my ass, button up my pants, and stumble out. You want a sure thing? Try the jalape?o-cheddar bagel at Au Bon Pain.

5. The After-Hours Party

Saturday at around 11 p.m.?the stalls fill up with mumblers with carts, old coats and work pants, gray goatees, and canes. No walking, talking Abercrombie ads here.

We?re all friends. Or friendly enough to start talking on cell phones and kill more than a half-hour on the can. Let a giant TP donut roll to the edge of the stall. **** it. Steal it. Who cares?
(Photograph by Darrow Montgomery)

People bring their stuff, fill the stall up with it. A day or two later, a guy uses the stall to count his earnings, dropping change into a plastic bag. I can see his wad of singles. Not a bad take. I?ve seen a man park his cart inside the bathroom?s entrance like it?s a handicap spot.

Tonight feels like the saddest after-hours party in the city. After a while?a reasonable period of time?I get up, leave the revelers, and wait outside.

Back inside, a man with a cane sees me standing, waiting for a stall and flips out. I don?t quite understand him. He?s mad at me for simply wanting to take his stall.

I see him again outside. He waves his cane at me. He tells me that he?d **** me up good if it wasn?t for the fact that his ?legs are bad.? I?m pretty sure I could have taken his cane.

End of night tally: I am offered weed, Jordache jeans, and a really complicated story from a dude about needing $12 to prevent the cops from seizing his car. He tells me his name. It sounds like he said, ?Everybody calls me Drill.? I am not offered a blowjob or any anonymous drilling.

6. Everything Changed After 9/11

There are cameras everywhere. There are three on the way to the food-court men?s room. One eyeball is focused directly on the entrance. You could be recorded on one of those cameras.

The authorities keep the tapes for a month or so, says Donald Lantz, senior executive vice president of IPC International Corporation, the private security firm that patrols the food-court and shops.

Do you think you can sweat it out for a month? Think IPC International Corporation is just fancy for rent-a-cop agency? Think again, Senator.

The officers of the IPC wear crisp white shirts with patches and flat drill-sergeant-style hats?what the industry calls ?Campaign Hats? (they sell for $60 a pop?that?s no joke). They also carry radios and clipboards.

Before they can set one shiny boot in Union Station, the officers go through 48 hours of training that includes ?foot patrol,? CPR, ?report writing,? and ?fire suppression.? But where do men?s fantasies come in?

?Does it cover bathroom stuff?? I ask Lantz. ?It would,? he says.

Just past midnight on Monday, I am sitting in the Gate B section when I hear a disturbance coming from the men?s room. It sounds like two men yelling.

IPC white shirts rush over. Amtrak cops zip to it on Segways. They separate the two men. A man in sweatpants complains about St. Es, not getting his meds or getting the wrong meds, and that there are people outside the building who want to kill him. He is let go.

The other, a slightly Eurotrash-looking man, is ordered to stay and have a seat at the closed Sbarro. Plainclothes, a police dog, more Amtrak cops, and more IPC dudes appear. His license is taken. He is questioned.
(Photograph by Darrow Montgomery)

?I?m sorry,? the man pleads to an Amtrak cop. ?I didn?t mean it.?

They let him stew for a good 30 minutes. IPC staff takes a Polaroid of him. Amtrak police let him go.

The man?s crime: pissing against a wall downstairs in the food court, which was closed. The camera caught him. The police just happened to find him in the upstairs bathroom with the ranting, missing-meds guy.

The pissing man would return a short while later with a woman. Both look upset, traumatized. They?ve come to get that Polaroid destroyed. After pleading their case to IPC staff, they leave claiming ?everything is OK.?

Yeah, right.

The man, Lantz says, a few days later via phone, has been potentially barred from Union Station. ?Eventually he?ll be able to be there again,? he explains. ?But not in the near future.?

While you contemplate how to explain to your constituents that you are temporarily banned from a 100-year-old historic building, there is one bit of good news you should know.

Lantz reports that there are no cameras in the men?s rooms. Only peepholes.

7. Mike Rogers

Do the math.

Gay activist and blogger Mike Rogers has been following Craig?s travels with a jizz mop since he first got that tip about a Union Station blowjob in August 2004.

Rogers took his materials to Idaho. The Idaho Statesman had been investigating Craig?s alleged homosexuality since last fall. And what did they find? One college classmate who claimed the senator came on to him, one anonymous man who claimed Craig had cruised him at an REI, and the original Union Station man. That?s it.

?It took me two years and two months to build a story,? Rogers says. ?To do research, to travel. I went to Boise. I went to Seattle. I went to Columbus.?

?The first thing I did was do research on Sen. Craig?about a half a day,? Rogers explains, adding that he Googled the anonymous Union Station man to check him out.

Of his source: ?We had a long e-mail relationship and then a phone relationship. To begin with, he called me from a phone with caller ID that matched the name. I knew when I read who he was that I was familiar with his work.?

But Rogers admits he?s not really a reporter. ?I used techniques, and I?m convinced. I have a different standard than you. I don?t have [an editor] standing over [me] saying I need more evidence.?

Rogers describes his style as ?unconventional.? ?Not bad,? he says. ?Not good. Just different. I do a different kind of a reporting than the mainstream media.?

Even with the unconventional methods and the reliance on anonymous sources, Rogers could produce only one source for the Statesman?s expose on Craig. So far this anonymous man has not gone public with his identity. And Rogers adds that since the story broke, no one else has come forward to claim they?ve commingled with Craig.

What does this mean for you? A man who doesn?t adhere to the reporting standards of the mainstream media needs another story.

7 1/2. Tucker Carlson May Bash Your Head In

Don?t believe me? Google it.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 07:51 am
@aaronssongs,
Sounds like you are offended by his sexual preference? I thought being gay was ok, i guess is your gay and repug it's not?
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 01:40 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;37196 wrote:
Sounds like you are offended by his sexual preference? I thought being gay was ok, i guess is your gay and repug it's not?


If only you could form sentences which made any sense.
I am not offended by his sexual preference. It doesn't matter if one is Repub or Dem...If you're gay, be gay...if you're gay, and lying about it...and married and got kids, and they don't know about it...you're reprehensible. I know that is like zooming over your head...get one of your posse to explain it to you.
He is perpetrating a fraud...not only to his family, but to his constituency, and the nation. That is the reason he should be condemned...not for his sexual preference...which, by the way, he has denied. A liar, and a hypocrite, to boot.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 08:28 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;37311 wrote:
If only you could form sentences which made any sense.
I am not offended by his sexual preference. It doesn't matter if one is Repub or Dem...If you're gay, be gay...if you're gay, and lying about it...and married and got kids, and they don't know about it...you're reprehensible. I know that is like zooming over your head...get one of your posse to explain it to you.
He is perpetrating a fraud...not only to his family, but to his constituency, and the nation. That is the reason he should be condemned...not for his sexual preference...which, by the way, he has denied. A liar, and a hypocrite, to boot.


Nope. Sexuality is complicated. There are many married men who, deep down, feel gay impulses, which they've suppressed due to the influences of cultural upbringing. As they age, they find them hard to manage. Some succumb to temptation, while others don't. The Catholic priesthood is full of men who thought living the cloistered life would prevent them from acting on their homosexual appetites. Many discover that no, being a priest doesn't guarantee celibacy. Sexuality is murky stuff. It's a major, driving force in human behavior.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sat 15 Sep, 2007 11:03 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;37382 wrote:
Nope. Sexuality is complicated. There are many married men who, deep down, feel gay impulses, which they've suppressed due to the influences of cultural upbringing. As they age, they find them hard to manage. Some succumb to temptation, while others don't. The Catholic priesthood is full of men who thought living the cloistered life would prevent them from acting on their homosexual appetites. Many discover that no, being a priest doesn't guarantee celibacy. Sexuality is murky stuff. It's a major, driving force in human behavior.


Oh, I see. He gets "a pass" because he's Republican...were he a Democrat, you be on him like white on rice. Hypocritical to say the least.
Seemingly most Republicans, in high places, are willing to "throw him under the bus"....and rightfully so.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 09:26 am
@aaronssongs,
There's a few others that need to be under the buss too.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 11:45 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;37481 wrote:
There's a few others that need to be under the buss too.


Well, it's unlikely to be a Democrat...seemingly, Republicans are the only ones getting caught up in these sex scandals....proving themselves to be what we always thought them to be....the biggest hypocrites and liars on the face of the Earth. LOL
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Sun 16 Sep, 2007 11:36 pm
@aaronssongs,
Quote:
The United States Attorney's Office - District of New Jersey

09-06-07 -- TRENTON -- In a public corruption investigation that progressed from southern to northern New Jersey, five members of the same local Atlantic County school board, two state Assemblyman from Passaic and Essex Counties, the mayor of Passaic and one current and one former Passaic city council member, and the chief of staff to the Newark City Council president were arrested today and charged with taking cash bribes to influence the award of public contracts. Contact: Michael Drewniak, PIO, 973-645-2888.

Public Corruption News Release (.pdf)

Steele Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Rivera Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Hackett Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Soto Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Jackson Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Reid Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Adams Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Callaway & Mister Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

McCormick Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Pressley Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Velez Criminal Complaint (.pdf)

Guess what they all have in common? You guessed it, a capitol D in front of there name. Is that scandal enough or is it required to be sexual?
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Mon 17 Sep, 2007 07:12 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;37641 wrote:
Guess what they all have in common? You guessed it, a capitol D in front of there name. Is that scandal enough or is it required to be sexual?[/QUOTE


Sexual....we were talking sex. I have no idea what pissant charges these people you listed have against them...but it pales in comparison to morally bankrupt Republicans......high profile Republicans...not some assemblymen, potato.
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FedUpAmerican
 
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Reply Mon 17 Sep, 2007 09:02 am
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;37382 wrote:
Nope. Sexuality is complicated. There are many married men who, deep down, feel gay impulses, which they've suppressed due to the influences of cultural upbringing. As they age, they find them hard to manage. Some succumb to temptation, while others don't. The Catholic priesthood is full of men who thought living the cloistered life would prevent them from acting on their homosexual appetites. Many discover that no, being a priest doesn't guarantee celibacy. Sexuality is murky stuff. It's a major, driving force in human behavior.


Sounds like you know just a bit too much about this subject. Is there something that you're trying to say Lassie?

Come on out of the closet little fella. You will be much happier. LOL!
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 17 Sep, 2007 09:06 am
@aaronssongs,
Kinda like a radio show host with no audience?
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crackface mcgee
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 07:32 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;37405 wrote:
were he a Democrat, you be on him like white on rice. Hypocritical to say the least.
Quote:


Why you gotta make this a "white" thing? Very Happy
Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 08:02 pm
@aaronssongs,
That's his thing- it all boils down to race or sexual orientaion.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 08:53 pm
@crackface mcgee,
crackface_mcgee;38194 wrote:
aaronssongs;37405 wrote:
were he a Democrat, you be on him like white on rice. Hypocritical to say the least.
Quote:


Why you gotta make this a "white" thing? Very Happy


Because there is a clear and not so inconspicuous "double standard"....why was it that Dennis Hastert, hemmed and hawwed, when asked, initially about Mark Foley???? Why did he claim to have no prior knowledge of his carrying ons???
Because just like "good ol' boys", Republicans refuse to cash in their own...even when it is obvious that the accused is "guilty as sin". Never....Bush can't think of any mistake that he's made, and Republicans are as white as snow (no pun intended)....
Y'all make it a "white thing" or a "black thing" or a "gay thing"....we all fall short of the glory...but y'all would never admit that.
You all make all kinds of accusations, asides, innuendo, and really just say any g.d. thing that comes to your mind (without thinking about the repercussions), and when called on it...it becomes the other person's issue...you never, ever take responsibility for your own s... Never!
Someone made a hideous racial slur against Whoopi Goldberg...just fell out of their mouth. Why? Because she had something controversial to say about the Vick incident...well, they used that comment to slime her. No big deal....just some "uppity" black actress/comedienne, with dred locks (which some folk see as "threatening"), who ought to keep her big mouth closed.
But then, after I pointed out that the comment was "racist"...all hell broke loose. It became about me, and how all my commentary is about "race and sexual orientation"...hot button topics for everybody else, but not me. It makes people uncomfortable...they don't want to look at their own issues...and how dare Aaron force us to do just that. I say, get over yourselves...and deal with your own issues...and quit pointing fingers.
crackface mcgee
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 09:58 pm
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;38203 wrote:
crackface_mcgee;38194 wrote:
aaronssongs;37405 wrote:
were he a Democrat, you be on him like white on rice. Hypocritical to say the least.

Because there is a clear and not so inconspicuous "double standard"....why was it that Dennis Hastert, hemmed and hawwed, when asked, initially about Mark Foley???? Why did he claim to have no prior knowledge of his carrying ons???
Because just like "good ol' boys", Republicans refuse to cash in their own...even when it is obvious that the accused is "guilty as sin". Never....Bush can't think of any mistake that he's made, and Republicans are as white as snow (no pun intended)....
Y'all make it a "white thing" or a "black thing" or a "gay thing"....we all fall short of the glory...but y'all would never admit that.
You all make all kinds of accusations, asides, innuendo, and really just say any g.d. thing that comes to your mind (without thinking about the repercussions), and when called on it...it becomes the other person's issue...you never, ever take responsibility for your own s... Never!
Someone made a hideous racial slur against Whoopi Goldberg...just fell out of their mouth. Why? Because she had something controversial to say about the Vick incident...well, they used that comment to slime her. No big deal....just some "uppity" black actress/comedienne, with dred locks (which some folk see as "threatening"), who ought to keep her big mouth closed.
But then, after I pointed out that the comment was "racist"...all hell broke loose. It became about me, and how all my commentary is about "race and sexual orientation"...hot button topics for everybody else, but not me. It makes people uncomfortable...they don't want to look at their own issues...and how dare Aaron force us to do just that. I say, get over yourselves...and deal with your own issues...and quit pointing fingers.


Oh Jeez. I was kidding. I'm not even going to read your post.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Wed 19 Sep, 2007 11:54 pm
@crackface mcgee,
crackface_mcgee;38230 wrote:
aaronssongs;38203 wrote:
crackface_mcgee;38194 wrote:


Oh Jeez. I was kidding. I'm not even going to read your post.


Like I care. Folks don't like hearing "the truth"...makes them uncomfortable...you're feeling uncomfortable, aren't you? Of course you don't want to read my post....you'd have to admit that there is some truth to what I have said....which would fly in the face of many.
It's ok. Stick your head in the sand. Cover your ears. Shield your eyes....maybe it'll go away.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:07 am
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;38197 wrote:
That's his thing- it all boils down to race or sexual orientaion.


No, that's not "my thing". It doesn't all boil down to race or sexual orientation...
But that seems to be the underlying theme to most of folks issues 'round here.
You really can't stand "black folks' and hispanics (hence the immigration outrage)....oh, but few up in here, will fight like they're at the Alamo, supporting Republican and Conservative POV's. Ironic.
Have you noticed...I seem to be the only black person up in here (if there are any others, please make yourself known)...and I'm catching all the heat.
Why is everyone ganging up on little ol' me? Cuz y'all got issues! It ain't me...it is y'all!
You can't stand gay people...but so many of your own Republicans are falling out of the closet, right and left...and y'all just don't know how to handle it.
Why? Are you stupid enough to think that only Democrats and liberals are "gay"????? Let's ask Ted Haggard? Ooops. No, he didn't go there.
Are you naive enough to think that some radical Islamists are not "gay", or "pro-West", or into "drugs'...or really just want to have what you have? Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? Are you so blinded by your hate and intolerance that all you see is "red" (no pun intended)???
Do you ever get down on your knees and ask for forgiveness, or guidance, or are you perfect just the way you are? (That's rhetorical, in case you were moved to answer)
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crackface mcgee
 
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 06:35 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;38246 wrote:
crackface_mcgee;38230 wrote:
aaronssongs;38203 wrote:


Like I care. Folks don't like hearing "the truth"...makes them uncomfortable...you're feeling uncomfortable, aren't you? Of course you don't want to read my post....you'd have to admit that there is some truth to what I have said....which would fly in the face of many.
It's ok. Stick your head in the sand. Cover your ears. Shield your eyes....maybe it'll go away.


I didn't read it because it's really not important, and I know by now that you are SO incredibly far-left, obsessed, and in my opinion, derranged. If there was a hint of moderation in any of the opinions you spew on this site, then maybe you could be taken seriously. But you preach only to those on the far left who villianize all things right of the far left. I believe you help to turn away from your side anyone who may be on the fence on any issue. Actually, I appreciate it. But I'm not gonna read it because I know that I would not be enlightened, just nauseated.
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Reply Thu 20 Sep, 2007 03:55 pm
@crackface mcgee,
crackface_mcgee;38257 wrote:
aaronssongs;38246 wrote:
crackface_mcgee;38230 wrote:


I didn't read it because it's really not important, and I know by now that you are SO incredibly far-left, obsessed, and in my opinion, derranged. If there was a hint of moderation in any of the opinions you spew on this site, then maybe you could be taken seriously. But you preach only to those on the far left who villianize all things right of the far left. I believe you help to turn away from your side anyone who may be on the fence on any issue. Actually, I appreciate it. But I'm not gonna read it because I know that I would not be enlightened, just nauseated.


Baby, you got that right...I am "far left"....couldn't be more.
But the only deranged (would be the spelling) people are Republicans and conservatives...except for maybe Hagel and Spector, and Schwartzenegger.
I had thought John Warner to be salvageable, but as he just sided with Bush against the democrats, when he voted against the plan to regulate US Troop Deployment Cycles in Iraq in US Senate, he was the last hope of any Repubs for the likes of me....looks like you're still reading, though. LOL
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