Are humans genetically 'hard-wired' to believe in god?

Did they use a control of some sort with non-twins? Then it would matter if they were raised together too, or not.

I tried telling rufio that on another thread, the difference between identical and fraternal twins is the key.

I would think that identical twins would be far more likely to share traits genetically.

cav,

I spent a long time going over Thomas Bouchard's work with rufio this morning on another thread. I really suggest you don't bother.

She should just call him and ask:

(612) 626-8268
bouch001 AT umn.edu

Cav, I would have to look at the study to see if its statistics are sound, but if they are, that would be evidence that faith is in part inheritable.


They are. But siblings who get brought up together are also more likely to share traits than siblings who aren't. Craven's and my point was that this latter factor is interesting, but not key to answer questions of inheritability.

I keep asking questions. I've done nothing but ask questions. I asked for more information about that study, for instance, and I never got it.

Perhaps unfortunately for you, you are in no position to give us orders. Therefore, if you want your questions answered, your best chance is to make it fun for us to answer them. This can be done by asking interesting questions. It can also be done by saying "thanks" when somebody answers your question. Complaining, on the other hand, only reduces the fun we have, thus reducing the site's usefulness to you.

No one's answered any of my questions, so I see no reason to say thanks. As for being interesting, people here obviously consider my questions so interesting that they must throw fits about them. I am not "giving you orders". I am asking for information on something that interests me (and presumably something that interests you). I suppose there's nothing stopping you from ignoring me, but you clearly aren't doing that either.

Well rufio, the reason I didn't answer them is because i had made a deal with you.

You'd made another forceful and absolute statement. You agreed that if I would assume the burden of proof to disprove the nagative you would at least give it consideration.

I proceeded to illustrate that genetics play at last a part. I illustrated the whole chain of logic, playing devils advocate and arguing your position for you up to the point about identical twins versus fraternal twins.

What did you do? You claimed to have seen the study and dismissed everything I said (till now still ignoring the concluding point about identical vs. fraternal).

Despite having claimed to have seen the study you instead asked very absurd questions about the study completely ignoring the relevant point.

I gave you names and even the contact information fo the leading expert on earth in this field.

What do you do? Claim here that I refuse to give you information. It's an absurd claim, you can only truthfully accuse me of not jumping through hoops for you.

I provided you with more substantiation today for a few arguments than you have provided anyone in your entire stay on this site.

You again mischaracterize by claiming you are being denied information.

The information is being given to you, that it's perceived a wasted effort is the only reason you've seen any reluctance to provide more.

This is a lie, and this is the second time I will call you out for the very same lie.

You make forcefull statements and then claim to be merely asking questions.

Alrighty there Craven. No problem here.

Regarding the Bouchard study. If rufio can't bother to look it up, or even make the call, then fuggedaboutit.

Fair enough. I'll quit bothering then. Bye.

I claimed to have seen the study and asked you more questions about it, since what I had seen hadn't been very informative. I also asked you about the Time magazine article, and also got no response. Yes, I occasionally make statements, but when someone calls me out I ask them questions on the assumption that they must have more information than me. Look, I don't want to spend my life researching this. I don't have the time. But you seem to have information that convinces you that genetics plays some role, I just want to know what that is.

I've said it 4 times just this morning and even made it bold once hoping you'd pay attention.

Thomas has broached it as well and cav even brought up the same source that you and I had been talking about.

I know you read it because you subsequently dismissed it saying you do not know what "context" it had.

The secret is in the difference between the coefficients of monozygotic twins vs. dizygotic twins.

I have already provided the answer, and enough information for you to personally speak to the person who has done the best research on this subject in history.

This is the proverbial "leading to water" and subsequent refusal to think.

I can do no more for you. If you are truly interested you'd contemplate the implications of the difference between the coefficients of monozygotic twins vs. dizygotic twins.

rufio, Craven gave you the professor's number. Wouldn't he be the best one to ask about your questions? You just want all of us to feed you the answers without any effort on your part. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. You're a student. How is it that you don't have the time?

.....all I wanted was a straight answer....

I don't know, that's how discussions used to work.

I do not have any links to this study as I am working off of memory, but in case you really dispute my claim I gave you the name of the study, the name of the person who did it, his email address and phone number.

I can really do no more for you rufio. I have had more patience with you than I think I should have.

I've lost count of how many times I've given you a straight answer. But here it is again:

The secret is in the difference between the coefficients of monozygotic twins vs. dizygotic twins.

That is a very concise and "straight" answer.

And you've never said what that is. Oh well, so much for that. You could have just said you didn't have a source in the first place. Of couse, I get bitched at even when I have sources.