Islam? A better religion for minorites

well in the UK Christianity is credited with having ended slavery

and Islam kills more people in 3rd world countries by 7am then some religions do all day.

whos point of view...The slave? Or the enslaver?



And minorities die faster in the bowels of Christ

Would you care to give us some facts or just your opinion Mousy? The fact is Islam is the only Religion that is currently practicing slavery. As for minorities in Islam if you don't convert you die or will shortly. So what's your point? Arab Muslims (Sudan) are killing Black African Muslims because they are to dark and not Muslim enough daily in the Horn of Africa. Their motto is plow the tomatoe as they rape Black Women. So put your money where your fingers are and give me some facts not just emotive nonsense.

It's recorded history, look it up

bowel of Christ? what is that supposed to mean

your position seems allot like 100% propaganda and 0% actual knowledge and understanding

As this is a Forum to debate RELIGION NOT POLITICS, then we have to do that and compare the religions on any issue using their sacred books.

[SIZE="2"]Islam on Racial Discrementation:[/SIZE]

"We (Allah) have sent you (Muhammad) as a mercy for all nations" [Quran 21:107]


In Islam, the best is the pious. So, there is no difference between the black, white, the Arab, the non-Arab except by the level of piety.

In the Noble Quran, AllahThe Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:

“O you who believe, verily your Lord is One, and your father [Adam] is one. There is no superiority of an Arab over a non-Arab or of a non-Arab over an Arab, or of a red man over a black man or of a black man over a red man, except in terms of taqwa (piety). Have I conveyed (the message)?” They said:“The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has conveyed (the message).”


The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave." Said bin Marjana said that he narrated that Hadith to 'Ali bin Al-Husain and he freed his slave for whom 'Abdullah bin Ja'far had offered him ten thousand Dirhams or one-thousand Dinars.


[SIZE="2"]Christianity Racism: [/SIZE]

Biblical (Christian) Jesus called the non-jews DOGS !!

Biblical Jesus said: "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." [Matthew 15:26]



And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed." [Matthew 15:22]

But He did not answer her a word. And His disciples came and implored Him, saying, "Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us." [Matthew 15:23]

But He answered and said, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." [Matthew 15:24]

But she came and began to bow down before Him, saying, "Lord, help me!" [Matthew 15:25]

And He answered and said, "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs." [Matthew 15:26]

But she said, "Yes, Lord; but even the dogs feed on the crumbs which fall from their masters' table." [Matthew 15:27]

Then after this Canaanite woman agreed to be humilated and to be described as a DOG as an act of faith!, the biblical Jesus agreed to heal her:

Then Jesus said to her, "O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish." And her daughter was healed at once. [Matthew 15:28].


[SIZE="2"]TALMUD Racism:[/SIZE]

1- "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

2- "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." Coschen hamischpat 405

3- "The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

4- "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

5-"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b



[SIZE="2"]SLAVERY in The Bible:[/SIZE]


Most Bible translations use the English word "servant" to translate the Hebrew or Greek words which really meant "slave."

Noah institutes slavery (Gen 9:25-26).

Abraham had slaves (Gen 17:12, 23).

Isaac gives Jacob his brothers as slaves (Gen 27:37, 40).

God frees the Israelites from slavery, but they themselves owned slaves (Ex 12:44).

General rules for slavery, e.g. a Hebrew may be kept enslaved by another Hebrew for only six years: Lev 19:20, 25:44-54, Ex 21:2-11, Deut 15:12ff.

Jeremiah condemns Israel for not releasing their Israelite slaves after six years (as commanded at Ex 21:2), but does not condemn slavery in general (Jer 34:13-18).

There is no punishment for killing your own slave by beating if the slave does not die immediately (Ex 21:20-21).

But if the beating causes loss of an eye or a tooth, the slave is freed (v 26-27).

Thus, the equivalent value of freedom is one tooth.
Damages to the owner for killing his slave is 30 shekels of silver (Ex 21:32).

A freed slave who will not abandon his slave wife and children shall have his ear pierced and remain a slave for life (Ex 21:4-6, cf. Deut 15:16-17).

God will use slavery as a punishment (Deut 28:32, 41, 68, Judg 2:14, Joel 3:8).

God commands the people to enslave themselves to Nebuchadnezzar, his "servant" (Jer 27:2-13).

God will enslave the children of the enemies of Judah (Joel 3:8, also Isa 14:2).

Slavery is better than death (Jer 27:13).

Slaves are to obey their masters, especially if the masters are Christians (1 Tim 6:1-2, Tit 2:9-10, Eph 6:5, Col 3:22).

Slaves should accept their state (1 Cor 7:21-24, 1 Pet 2:18).



[SIZE="2"]Freedom of Religion in ISLAM: [/SIZE]

"Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (The Noble Quran, 15:2-3)"

"Say, 'The truth is from your Lord': Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it):......(The Noble Quran, 18:29)"

"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then COMPEL mankind, against their will, to believe! (The Noble Quran, 10:99)"

"Say: 'Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger: but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message). (The Noble Quran, 24:54)"

"Say : O ye that reject Faith! I worship not that which ye worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, Nor will ye worship that which I worship. To you be your Way, and to me mine. (The Noble Quran, 109:1-6)"



[SIZE="2"]Freedom of Religion in the BIBLE:[/SIZE]

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail. They should pelt them to death with stones. Their own blood is upon them."

Christians must obey the laws of the OT as Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

we don't need to look to the Koran for such atrocities, we can just read any newspaper.

Check the reality if you dare and if you are honest... its an eye-opener, shows you why things happen

The following sites made by westerners so u cant say its muslim propaganda:

List of "israel's" Massacres against Lebanon since 1948

George W. Bush - Terrorist in the White House - Israeli Atrocities...

Eyewitness Report of the Attrocities in Jenin

Here is the famous British journalist " Robert Fisk" who exposed the the Anglo-American Aggression (war crimes) in Iraq Pictures of Civilian Victims of the Anglo-American Aggression in Iraq - March, 2003 onwards


The Bible Inspired those War Crimes & Attrocities,:[SIZE="2"]JESUS CAMP[/SIZE] is a disturbing, Oscar nominated documentary about a kids camp for the American children of religious extremist Christian Evangelicals. The fact that the film contains no footage of anything that the pre-teen camp members are exposed to, yet it carries a certificate PG-13, says it all. Kids At Jesus Camp Worship to a G. W. Bush Picture and are taught HATE and Violence!

Watch here the ABC News Report about the film:
YouTube - Jesus Camp (ABC news)

[SIZE="3"]Terror Storm[/SIZE]


Alex Jones' latest and greatest documentary film Terror Storm. A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism. 1 hr 52 min - Jun 23, 2006.

Watch it here: Alex Jones's Terror Storm

Alex Jones' latest film covers in detail the proven history of government sponsored terrorism, and focuses on the 7/7 London bombings and 9/11.

Loose Change director Dylan Avery on the movie: "Terror Storm sets a new standard in documentary filmmaking. Alex Jones knocks it out of the park yet again."

The film takes us on a journey through the depths of history from the Gulf of Tonkin, the USS Liberty and operation Gladio through to the Madrid bombings, the London bombings, 9/11 and robustly catalogues the real story behind the government induced fable.

Terror Storm features exclusive interviews with prominent names such as former MI5 officer David Shayler, Ex CIA analyst Ray McGovern, Activist Cindy Sheehan, Michael Meacher MP, Former Bush administration economist Morgan Reynolds and BYU physics Professor Steven Jones.

[SIZE="3"]Christian American Terrorism [/SIZE]


[SIZE="3"]Why We Fight[/SIZE]

The BBC presents 'Why We Fight' by Charlotte Street, a documentary film on the commerce of war, and how the military industrial complex profits so much from war, that it must create wars to continue the growth of it's business. A classic must-see film.

What are the forces that shape and propel American militarism?
This award-winning film provides an inside look at the anatomy of the American war machine.
Is American foreign policy dominated by the idea of military supremacy? Has the military become too important in American life?


You can watch the whole film here: Why We Fight

Or You can watch it in 4 parts here:

Why We Fight 1/4: YouTube - Why We Fight 1/4

Why We Fight 2/4: YouTube - Why We Fight 2/4

Why We Fight 3/4: YouTube - Why We Fight 3/4

Why We Fight 4/4: YouTube - Why We Fight 4/4

Face it, Islame sucks.

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Oh, and the film Why We Fight isn't "American terrorism", another great example of you propaghanda techniques, though, they suck, it is about the business of war, and the building of the military industrial complex, not "terror". Go back to you cave.

OMG......... yet more pages full of recruiting tactics.... barf, puke,blah..... I am sick again!!!!!!:banghead:

All of you with your backward ass ways are not going to get anywhere in the world of today. You will see.
:bangin:
Diary HELP, I did it again, where are you when I need you?

Islam is primitive and lacks strong morals and ethics. It's an empty, mechanical religion that ignores the essence of one's humanity. Many American Blacks converted to it simply to defy Whitie, not because they actually believed in its theology. Islam is inhuman, and anything that dehumanizing is fundamentally wrong.

Examples; Mohammed Ali (Cashias Clay spell) after being in prison came out a muslim.
Mike Tyson ( Muslim name unknown to me) came out of prison a muslim.

The low educated morally challeged and real criminal types seem to gravitate towards what is consistantly bad and violent like Islam, against the grain deliberatly, belief, true belief has nothing to do with it, it is done exactly to piss off Whitie.

Good post Tvsej, was your moniker picked because of the easy keystrokes from the home row?

Well here's what the true face of Islam is about. Islam is the only religion that practices slavery today. It's current use of children as sex slaves is well recorded. Saudi Arabia forces children (like below) to be camel jockeys, they stave them half to death. These children are bought and sold like bread. As for the Koren it also states a man can have sex with a male child (or teach) until he has body hair. It also describes Allah being a peeping tom watching a six year old female child dress. He later forced her to marry him and had sex with her at nine.

Emirates: Over 600 Pakistani child jockeys sent home

Abu Dhabi, 23 August (AKI/WAM) - Over 600 Pakistani child camel jockeys working in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) have so far been repatriated to Pakistan under an agreement between the UAE and the UN children's agency UNICEF, a senior Pakistani foreign ministry official has disclosed.

''More than 650 child camel jockeys have been brought home from the UAE after undergoing an extensive rehabilitation programme for social and psychological support," Pakistan's foreign ministry director general Ghalib Iqbal told Arabic daily Al Ittihad.

He described the moves as part of "efforts adopted by the UAE to put an end to the problem of using underage children in camel races,''

''The move testifies to the good intention of the UAE and its wise leadership's care for the those helpless children who fell victims to the human trafficking gangs which abused them in a profession that is not compatible with their age,'' Iqbal affirmed.

He maintained that the Pakistani government had taken stringent measures against traffickers of young children and tried its best to prevent parents from sending their children voluntarily to the Gulf region to work as camel jockeys.

Camel racing is a favourite sport in the Gulf States.

The UAE banned the use of children under 16 or weighing less than 45 kilogrammes as jockeys in camel racing, following widespread criticism of the abuse of children. Since new restrictions have been imposed, many of the youngsters have been repatriated. A previous 1993 ban on the use of children under 15 had been widely ignored in the UAE.

The child jockeys come mainly from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka and are as young as four years old. Human rights groups have highlighted the exploitation of children by traffickers who either pay a small sum to their impoverished parents or just kidnap the potential jockeys and smuggle them into the UAE.

They are often kept in harsh conditions in camps, under-fed by employers to keep them light. They also risk being thrown-off and trampled on as well as longer term orthopaedic damage.

Alright Red alright, be nice, you got me, I did stick that last part in to stab a little deeper, could have done without it I know. I was being shallow and inconsiderate, I can't even promise that it won't happen again with this topic. I was really sassy yesterday for some reason, just kicken everybody. Sorry! I am angry about these immoral sick people.

I also know about the camel jockeys and the way they are treated and discarded. It is truely way beyond anything humane.
I am very aware of the sick and violent nature of Islamic peoples in the name of Allah.
In my building there is a Turkish family the mom birthed 13 kids, 9 are female, the father of all is now around 70 his grandson of one of his daughters is his son. There are more of them he fathered, they just never come to visit.

All the things you posted are correct, they do not want to talk about those things with us. Give up legal sick games for their own enjoyment, selling kids, molestation and rape, ha. They would rather die and they may.

They are no ethics or morals inherent to Islam. It's nothing but mechanical obedience, cruel paternalism and savage holy war. Mohammad was a murderer.

Sword nice try, how about you find evidence that isn't forty years old. Okay, your religion is the only one of earth that sells little girls and boys to grown Muslim men for sex and rape and it's legal under Sharia Law. In Christians countries you go to jail not back to your four wives and twenty children.

Islam regards Children and women as trash, to be disposed of at will or a whim. Sadly Tv in Europe, Canada and the US the males are allowed to continue this barbaric treatment in the name of Multiculture (the lefts new sex toy, kidding). I didn't find your response Tv offensive in fact as females we need to make sure the world is aware of Islam and it's barbaric treatment of women and children. If they are to survive and thrive the males in Islam need to be shown how shameful and barbaric their religion is. Child slavory in the year 2007 in the UAE is frightening because they are filthy rich from oil.

A class action suit is before the court in the US 11,000 child slaves in Saudi Arabia are being represented because one lone male got out alive and he launched the suit for them. Saudi Arabia the birth place of radical islam and Wahabbi Islam, and they force little children as young as four to ride camels and starve. Saudi Arabia is beyound hypocritical, it's leaders have sex in pleasure palaces with children while it's Imams preach radical Islam. Take the house of Saud down and watch the middle east emplode.

Catholcism?






In the Name of Christ inhumane(satanism?) acts are committed against humans and justified by the Ku Klux Christ
Whitie needs to convert to..if not Islam than something different






Christanity is not lacking a history of inhuman ACTS

Maybe here is the answer to the original question of this thread:

[SIZE="3"]LA Church to Pay $600M for Clergy Sexual Abuse [/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"]By GILLIAN FLACCUS, Associated Press Writer
Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:45 PM ET
LA church to pay $600M for clergy abuse - Yahoo! News


LOS ANGELES - The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles will settle its clergy abuse cases for at least $600 million, by far the largest payout in the church's sexual abuse scandal, The Associated Press learned Saturday.[/SIZE]