Chuck one up for the good guys! SCOTUS

the fact remains that as a free country everything should be subject to popular support, at least when it comes to government dollars being used for financial aid.

the first time the government gives money to an Islamic church (which should take six months tops), I'll save you the trouble of hearing me say "I told you so"

There are giving it back, as aid.

what other physical mortal purpose does it serve?

If this were oil companies, private schools, political parties, or any other privately controlled entity that this protection was passed for you'd throw a fit. But you give it a pass because "this one is really the word of god", and that's no different then the Taliban ruling their country with their rule of god. It's a "we're the only ones right" kind of system that perpetuates the cycle of religious violence in the world.

time to write DeFazio

what other physical mortal purpose does it serve?

If this were oil companies, private schools, political parties, or any other privately controlled entity that this protection was passed for you'd throw a fit.

But you give it a pass because "this one is really the word of god", and that's no different then the Taliban ruling their country with their rule of god.

It's a "we're the only ones right" kind of system that perpetuates the cycle of religious violence in the world.

No, I mean give it back to the people they take it from.

Stealing my money and giving it to someone else is not "giving it back".

Socialist bullshit, more and more everyday.

And look who's supporting it now.

the fact remains that as a free country everything should be subject to popular support, at least when it comes to government dollars being used for financial aid.

the first time the government gives money to an Islamic church (which should take six months tops), I'll save you the trouble of hearing me say "I told you so"

Tell me where all your taxes go. Do you have a say so in any of it?

Either do i. IMO it might as well go to something i approve of.

I think it's a useful institution for many people but we can also thank religion for Holy War, persecution, allot of Child Molestation, and some Dirty Politics.

I think I said it before but rationally society at large should view Christianity as the uncle that paid your way through college, but molested you.

and again, you're leading away from the debate, the fact of the matter is the American taxpayer has no right to challenge how their tax dollars are spent. How does that effect freedom of Religion, does a Buddhist want their tax dollars going to XYZ church? And you talk about charity, where's the conditional verbage here that states if said dollars are being used for charitable works?

It doesn't, the Churches can use the money for whatever they want. I personally witnessed a political election ad on TV that was paid for by Pioneer Drive Baptist Church in Abilene Texas. So potentially a politician can funnel monies into their church which can then be saved for a contribution for re-election.

boy that's just a great idea

No it shouldn't.

If they gave it back to you, you could give it willingly.

And people like me who don't care? Give the money back.

I did give it willingly.

Give it back, not likely.

While on the surface some would support this I will tell you that when people allow their right to question of government to slip away two things always happen.

1. Tyranny comes to call
2. Good people are always left wondering "how did that happen, we trusted such good people"

absolute power corrupts absolutely, it doesn't matter what the sign on the door says.

the real problem here is that there is no conditional use of the money. The church can use it for whatever it wants regardless of what the tax payer thinks.

Some of us think this is fine because it goes to the "good guys", but these institutions are ran by mortal foulable men. Men who are often as well known for child molestation as they are soup kitchens, who build as many watersides as they do homeless shelters.

As there is no conditional use here there is a blank check for fraud, anytime that exists anywhere it is more a matter of when that fraud happens then if.

Republicans, especially those who love Reagan should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such a drastic expanse in government power and spending which is legally protected from the very voice which the government itself derives it's power by.
While on the surface some would support this I will tell you that when people allow their right to question of government to slip away two things always happen.

1. Tyranny comes to call
2. Good people are always left wondering "how did that happen, we trusted such good people"

absolute power corrupts absolutely, it doesn't matter what the sign on the door says.

the real problem here is that there is no conditional use of the money. The church can use it for whatever it wants regardless of what the tax payer thinks.

Some of us think this is fine because it goes to the "good guys", but these institutions are ran by mortal foulable men.

Men who are often as well known for child molestation as they are soup kitchens, who build as many watersides as they do homeless shelters.

As there is no conditional use here there is a blank check for fraud, anytime that exists anywhere it is more a matter of when that fraud happens then if.

Republicans, especially those who love Reagan should be ashamed of themselves for supporting such a drastic expanse in government power and spending which is legally protected from the very voice which the government itself derives it's power by.

While on the surface some would support this I will tell you that when people allow their right to question of government to slip away two things always happen.

1. Tyranny comes to call
2. Good people are always left wondering "how did that happen, we trusted such good people"

absolute power corrupts absolutely, it doesn't matter what the sign on the door says

Silver, some people just can't get past the sign on the door.

"Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths, which are the instruments of investigation in Courts of Justice?"

It's amazing how some people can read the government's doctrine and think that somehow it's okay for Christianity to have some part of the government.

No need for further explanation.