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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
Builder
 
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Reply Wed 30 May, 2012 04:25 pm
@msolga,
Haven't been following this for a while, (travelling), but thanks for keeping us up to date with all this info, MsOlga.

Poor Tony. Can't seem to follow his own lead at times. Running out to avoid voting. Very phunny indeed. Thompson is a thorn in everyone's side, it would seem...
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2012 05:44 am
@Builder,
Hi there, Builder.
Good to hear from you again. Smile
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 6 Jun, 2012 06:05 am
Oh good grief!
This is ridiculous!
After all the anti-Thomson "evidence" Channel 9 has trumpeted! Rolling Eyes
I think Channel 9 owes Thomson a public apology.
Say nothing of all the other "respectable" political journalists who have run with this story, with zilch evidence to support it apart from Channel 9's promotions.|

Has this "story" now gone the way of Ashby's "case" against Slipper?
Things have become very quiet on that front now that so many Liberals have become so implicated in that story!

Would it be too much for our political commentators to return to their proper jobs & start reporting on parliament again?
Like: what are the major policy differences between Labor & the Liberals?
Or the next time Abbott declares that Labor's polices can't work, ask him to explain in detail what his party would do instead?
Would that be to much to ask?

Quote:
'Mistaken identity': prostitute unsure if she slept with Thomson
June 6, 2012 - 8:11PM/the AGE

The former sex worker at the centre of allegations against federal MP Craig Thomson tonight recanted her story that she had slept with him while he was at the Health Services Union — and accused the Nine Network of misrepresenting her.

The woman tonight apologised to Mr Thomson and his family, and argued it had been a case of mistaken identity. "I feel absolutely terrible for Craig Thomson and his family."

The woman was in negotiations with the Nine Network's A Current Affair program, which had tracked her down, secured a sworn statement, and offered first $50,000, then $60,000, for an on-camera interview.

Tonight she fronted the rival Seven Network Today Tonight program to say she had not slept with Mr Thomson, and would retract her sworn statement to that effect.

The woman said she had told A Current Affair on May 21 via a text message that she was now "totally unsure" that she slept with Mr Thomson, and was therefore "not a credible witness."

She said the program went ahead anyway three days later and broadcast the allegation without her knowledge, permission or consent. "Once (reporter Justin Armsden) aired it, I felt really screwed over." ....<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/mistaken-identity-prostitute-unsure-if-she-slept-with-thomson-20120606-1zwed.html
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Bootlace
 
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Reply Sat 9 Jun, 2012 10:41 pm
It's all about getting into power at any cost and staying there.
I want to know is the billion dollars still on offer for the Tasmanian
hospital, or was it just bribery by Tony Abbott.
If it wasn't a bribe, it must be still justified, no ?
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 06:36 pm
@Bootlace,
Yep, it was/still is all about gaining power.
If you want to know whether the Tasmanian hospital promise will be honored, you'll have to ask Abbott.
But don't go holding your breath waiting for an answer ....
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 06:39 pm
Quote:
Economists fail the reality test, again

The nation's economists, commentators and business people got caught with their pants down last week. They'd convinced themselves the economy was weak, but the Bureau of Statistics produced figures showing it was remarkably strong.

It's not the first time they've failed such a reality test. They prefer not to think about such embarrassing, humbling occurrences, but it's important to ask ourselves why we got it so wrong. ....<cont>


http://www.theage.com.au/business/economists-fail-the-reality-test-again-20120610-204bq.html

Treasurer hails 'exceptional' economic growth:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-06/gdp-march-quarter-2012/4055188
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 06:41 pm
@msolga,
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/08/3360197/1_MOR--logging-index-20120608084051172333-620x0.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jun, 2012 06:43 pm
@msolga,
http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/09/3362544/port-Wilcox-600x400.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jun, 2012 07:06 am
Anyone watch Julia Gillard on Q&A tonight?
I'd be interested in your thoughts about what she had to say, if you did.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:18 am
@msolga,
No?
She did very well, I think.
Interesting that Tony Abbott has so far refused to to do a similar solo Q&A stint, though Tony Jones said that he's been invited to, a few times now.
msolga
 
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Reply Tue 12 Jun, 2012 08:40 am
@msolga,
Ha. Just found this, from Tandberg in the Age.
Perfect timing!

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/12/3369429/tandberg1206-200x0.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2012 08:41 am
<very deep sigh> :


http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/19/3386394/MOR--tandberg-20120619094247469189-620x0.jpg

Fairfax Media to cut 1,900 jobs in Australia:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/18/fairfax-media-job-cuts-australia

Rinehart confirms Fairfax share raid:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-18/gina-rinehart-stake-in-fairfax-media-up-to-187pc/4077286

MPs: Rinehart should sign charter:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/mps-rinehart-should-sign-charter-20120618-20kco.html

Labor rejects Greens push to curtail Rinehart:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/labor-rejects-greens-push-to-curtail-rinehart-20120619-20l5l.html

Rinehart the saviour? /Malcom Turnbull:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/rinehart-the-saviour-20120619-20m0c.html

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/19/3387617/tandberg-letters-2006-200x0.jpg

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Bootlace
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2012 12:30 am
Looks like the education system in QLD is in for a shake-up.
Can-do Campbell wants to privatise state schools.
With his dictatorial attitude, QLDers can be thankful he doesn't control the army.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/state-schools-offered-50000-extra-funding-to-go-independent-john-paul-langbroek/story-e6freoof-1226404351542?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cmnews+%28The+Courier+Mail+|+News%29
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dlowan
 
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Reply Thu 21 Jun, 2012 02:01 am
@msolga,
I'll call that deep sigh and quadruple it.

I guess at least the rise of independent media like Crikey etc will give some relief from the relentless right pounding, and Fairfax looks set to become pretty insignificant in the mix anyway.
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 05:52 pm
@dlowan,
Yep, Rinehart would be delighted to shut all Fairfax newspapers down. She can easily afford that.
I guess that's one way of dealing with troublesome media opinion?
Buy the offending papers & shut em down. Rolling Eyes


This is interesting...

GetUp! advertisement on the front page of the AGE this morning...
Very cheeky!

http://s0.2mdn.net/viewad/3337037/rectangle-rinehart-age.gif

http://www.theage.com.au/
g
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 06:11 pm
How long before both political parties stop playing politics with the issue of asylum seekers & allow a workable solution to be found?

How many more people will die like this?

Quote:
Hopes fade in search for asylum boat survivors
Updated June 23, 2012 09:44:38/ABC News

Video: Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare discusses rescue efforts (Lateline)
Related Story: Timeline: tracking the disaster
Related Story: Asylum seeker disaster: how it happened
Related Story: Liberal MP calls for rethink on Malaysian solution
Related Story: Asylum seeker disaster north of Christmas Island
Related Story: Search on for asylum boat survivors
Map: Christmas Island

The search to find about 90 asylum seekers missing after their boat capsized in Indonesian waters on Thursday will resume this morning, with rescuers now ordered to recover bodies.

So far, 109 asylum seekers including a 13-year-old boy have been rescued since the stricken boat was spotted north of Christmas Island on Thursday afternoon.


Three people have so far been confirmed dead with up to 90 people are feared dead, but no survivors have been found in over 24 hours and hopes of finding anyone else alive are fading.

All known survivors of the tragedy have now been brought to shore.

Quote:
108 adult men and one 13-year-old boy rescued so far
Three people confirmed dead and about 90 more remain missing
Home Affairs Minister says rescuers have been ordered to start retrieving bodies
But Australian Maritime Safety Authority says rescuers still searching for survivors
A Navy ship took 96 survivors to Christmas Island; three were taken to hospital
Up to six ships and several aircraft are on the scene
Australian authorities say they knew the boat was in trouble early on Wednesday and told it to return to Indonesia


HMAS Wollongong ferried most of the survivors to Christmas Island on Friday morning and the remaining 16 were brought to shore overnight.....


But a small glimmer of hope & sanity as the two main political parties remain deadlocked over this issue:

Quote:
Meanwhile backbench MPs from both major parties say they are willing to participate in bi-partisan talks aimed at breaking the political deadlock on border protection.

Liberal backbencher Judi Moylan, a long-time refugee advocate, says she is horrified more people have died trying to flee danger and a political solution must be negotiated.


"Just saying that we're going to stop the boats is simply not enough," she said.

Independent MP Tony Windsor has flagged gathering a group of MPs from across the parliament to try to break the political stalemate.

Ms Moylan says she would be happy to participate as does Labor MP Steve Georganas.

"Of course it would have to be cleared by our caucus but I'm sure that as I said anything that would bring us closer to a solution I would love to be a part of.

The proposal also has the backing of independent MP Rob Oakeshott.


Hopes fade in search for asylum boat survivors:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-23/capsized-boat-search-to-resume/4087912

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Builder
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 08:24 pm
@msolga,
As tragic as this current episode is, MsOlga, Christmas Island is actually a lot closer to Jakarta (360 kms), than it is to Australia (1560 kms), and this boat went down 200 kms from the island, so it was still basically in Indonesian waters, where the boat would have originated from.

This raises the question, of why is Australia responsible for what happened? And not Indonesia?
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 22 Jun, 2012 11:50 pm
@Builder,
Yes, you're right, Builder. It was much closer to Indonesia than Australia.
I can't understand how the Indonesian authorities could not have been aware of a boat leaving that part of Java with so many people on board, either.

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/06/22/3395765/729Indonesia-MapBoat-420x0.jpg

Dozens feared dead as packed asylum boat capsizes off Christmas Island:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/dozens-feared-dead-as-packed-asylum-boat-capsizes-off-christmas-island-20120622-20rnz.html

From what I've read so far, the Indonesians claim there was some "confusion" about initial Australian messages they received about the boat being in trouble. Still, it is rather perplexing that they don't appear to have had much involvement in the rescue operation.

I heard an interview from the captain (?) of the Australian rescue ship on ABC radio yesterday. His view was that the Australians were already on the scene & were better able to deal with the situation than the Indonesian authorities. His most urgent concern was saving as many lives as possible, no matter "who's responsibly" it technically was.

But a lot of questions to be answered, that's for sure.

From our (Australian) perspective, I just wish our federal leaders (on both sides) would stop playing games with such a serious issue for political mileage & work together (as they surely should!) to come up with a sane & workable solution. It is very heartening to hear of some movement in this direction from backbenchers from both parties & also some independents.

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msolga
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jun, 2012 12:47 am
@msolga,
This is what Tony Abbott said, in response to the current tragedy:

Quote:
Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said the sinking of an asylum boat off Western Australia is tragic and not an occasion for political point scoring.

"It shows what a horrible business this whole people smuggling racket is," Mr Abbott told the Nine Network today.

"Obviously it's important we stop it one way or another, but I don't think today is a day for politics.

"It's a day for human sympathy for everyone caught up in this terrible disaster and support and encouragement for the rescue effort."


Asylum boat tragedy: Slim chance of finding more survivors:
http://www.news.com.au/national/an-asylum-seeker-boat-has-capsized-north-of-christmas-island/story-e6frfkvr-1226404645552

Well what can one say, but what incredible hypocrisy?

The only solution Abbott will accept is Nauru. The Howard way.
He is unwilling even consider any other approach which Labor might propose. Because he wants to indulge in political point scoring over Labor on this issue. Because there's a lot of mileage to be gained.
So it's either his way or no way ....
He & his cronies will continue to demonize " boat people" at every opportunity, of course. Just like they have up till now.

So, after this rescue effort is over, will he actually sit down at the table with his Labor counterparts & make a genuine effort toward finding a more humane solution?
Don't hold your breath waiting!

.
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 24 Jun, 2012 09:56 pm
@msolga,
A sad, sad day for journalism in Australia.
Sad

Quote:
Editors quit The Age, SMH
Updated June 25, 2012 13:28:43

Related Story: Media in turmoil - Live blog, Day 2
Related Story: Rinehart ups push for Fairfax board seats
Related Story: Fairfax journos return to work
Map: Australia

The editors-in-chief of Fairfax's The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald newspapers have quit.

The Age editor Paul Ramadge told staff this afternoon he is standing down.

His counterpart at The Sydney Morning Herald and publisher, Peter Fray, has also stepped down, as did Sydney Morning Herald editor Amanda Wilson.

The resignations come after a tumultuous week for the media company, in which it announced a a decision to axe 1,900 staff, close two major printing presses and downsize its flagship newspapers to tabloids.

The massive restructure coincided with the news mining magnate Gina Rinehart has increased her stake in the company to nearly 19 per cent.

Her move sparked speculation she was aiming to exert editorial influence over the companies media outlets.

Ms Rinehart was already the majority Fairfax shareholder before her latest acquisitions, and has previously lobbied unsuccessfully for two seats on the Fairfax board. ...<cont>


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-25/the-age-editor-quits/4090730


Quote:
Mr Ramadge said he would leave the company with ‘‘divided feelings’’ after a series of talks over the past few weeks. ...

‘‘Clearly I do this with divided feelings...

"‘‘With politics in Australia at the crossroads, with would-be regulators threatening journalistic independence and with the very notion of trust under siege, the Australia of 2012 needs The Age and all it stands for,’’ he said. .....


The Age editor Paul Ramadge quits Fairfax:
http://www.theage.com.au/business/the-age-editor-paul-ramadge-quits-fairfax-20120625-20xhw.html
 

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