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Oz Election Thread #4 - Gillard's Labor

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2012 03:43 pm
@msolga,
This is more like it.

Good for Stephen Smith for sticking to his guns.

He is absolutely right, despite the "findings" of the Kirkham report.:

Quote:
... The issue that had made Smith so furious was Kafer's having unrelated disciplinary proceedings brought against the female cadet who was the victim in the scandal when she was under pressure over the Skype affair. He said that holding such a hearing at that point ''is not only inappropriate, insensitive and wrong - it's almost certainly faulty at law''.

The Kirkham report bore out none of these claims. Kafer's behaviour wasn't an error of judgment, it found, though it added that it was unfortunate the girl wasn't asked whether she wished the other matters to go ahead then. It said it would have been reasonable not to have undertaken the proceedings.

We can't know any Kirkham detail because the report is not being released, even in edited form - a questionable decision.

Smith insisted yesterday he still regarded it an ''error of judgment to allow the character of the potential innocent victim of an alleged serious sexual abuse to be brought into play''.. ..


Only defiance from Smith, but in the end he has no choice:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/only-defiance-from-smith-but-in-the-end-he-has-no-choice-20120307-1uknc.html?rand=3228853

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msolga
 
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Reply Thu 8 Mar, 2012 12:49 am
@msolga,
Quote:
video: Interview with Stephen Smith
Updated March 08, 2012 09:44:10/ABC News

Defence Minister Stephen Smith has stood by comments criticising the handling of the Defence Force Skype sex scandal in 2011.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-08/interview-with-stephen-smith/3876132
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 12:57 am
@msolga,
Seems that the Kirkham report findings were not quite so cut-and -dried, quite so black & white as they originally seemed:

Quote:
.... yesterday Channel Ten obtained the original report by Mr Kirkham, and it told a different story. ''Commodore Kafer could and should have foreseen that [disciplinary charges would be served on Kate] at a time when [she was receiving] medical treatment and had recently been advised of the Skype incident, and further that such service could cause her upset.''

Mr Kirkham's report also found that Kate suffered unnecessary distress because of Commodore Kafer's actions, and that he failed to inquire as to whether Kate wanted the disciplinary matter to be delayed.

''The inquiry finds this failure unfortunate … such inquiries would have been a sensible and appropriate course of action.''

The unedited findings of the Kirkham report will provide support to Mr Smith's position. Since Wednesday, and despite strong criticism from Defence, he has refused to back away from his criticism of Commodore Kafer. ....


Defence Minister thrown report lifeline:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/defence-minister-thrown-report-lifeline-20120308-1un8b.html
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 12:59 am
@msolga,
How some of our cartoonists responded to this ADF issue.:

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/09/3110387/AC-leunig-defcon_20120309074630231180-620x0.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 01:07 am
@msolga,
http://images.smh.com.au/2012/03/08/3109943/pope-march-9-600x400.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 01:08 am
@msolga,
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2012/03/08/1226294/016012-120309-kudelka-cartoon.jpg
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 01:14 am
@msolga,
OK, enough of that.
You get the picture.

Will Stephen Smith be the Defence Minister to (finally!) drag the kicking & screaming ADF into the 21st century?
I hope so.
Hang in there, Stephen, you're doing a great job.
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 01:38 am
I had to wait a while to post this last cartoon comment.
"Flooding" issues.
That's what happens when you talk to yourself, in your own posts, for too long, without another poster's input. Wink
Oh well.

This one has nothing to do with the military & antiquated sexist attitudes.

It's about a subject very close to my heart, from a cartoonist who is very close to my heart, too.
(Love your work, Tandberg! Always spot on! Smile )

It's about this current obsession with the "necessity" for government budget surpluses .... & what it actually means.:

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/09/3111081/Tandberg-Surplus-March-9-600x400.gif
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dlowan
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 03:54 am
@msolga,
Yes, interesting expansion of the contents of the report.

On ya Smithie!
msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Mar, 2012 04:46 am
@dlowan,
Thank you so much for that post, Deb!
I was starting to believe I was oddly out of step with Oz A2K thinking on Oz politics!
Not a very nice feeling at all. Neutral

Yes, go Smithie! Smile

msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 01:04 am
@msolga,
One last post on "the Skype affair" ... (Yes, I'm sick of it, too.)

But just tying up lose ends & getting the story straight, as opposed to the white-washed "official version" of the Kirkham findings ...

Quote:
.....thanks to a leak to Channel Ten ...., we now know what Kirkham really found is in some key respects at odds with the spin put on his findings.

The press release exonerated the Australian Defence Force Academy commandant, Bruce Kafer, who had been stood down, over his handling of the Skype affair, clearing the way for his reinstatement.

It also said a newspaper account from last April by this reporter - in which the cadet known as Kate detailed the harassment she said she faced after going public when she discovered her sexual encounter with another cadet had allegedly been streamed via Skype to other male cadets - was wrong on almost every level..... <cont>


Secrecy over Skype scandal findings raises doubts:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/secrecy-over-skype-scandal-findings-raises-doubts-20120310-1ur92.html
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 06:54 pm
Yay! At last!

Some media focus on the propose Abbott/LNP budget cuts & pre-election promises. Well sorta. Not quite the magnified glitch-by-minor-glitch focus that the Labor government has received for months now, at the hands of an obliging media. But it's a start, yes?

The question is: How is Abbott going to pay for his extravagant promises without the revenue from the mining tax? AND achieve a budget surplus at the same time?

Answer: he can't.
But he can decimate public services, destroy lots of jobs & starve those services which lower income people depend on, in the process of "balancing the books".

He'll be establishing "a commission of audit" for advice about where to make those public sector cuts.
Does that sound familiar?
That's precisely what John Howard did.
Here we go again. Neutral

Quote:
Abbott plans cuts in health, defence and education jobs
March 10, 2012/the AGE

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/09/3113545/ipad-art-wide-abbott-420x0.jpg

A COALITION government would take the axe to public service jobs in health, defence and education as part of a promise by Tony Abbott to undertake a thorough audit of federal government spending.

Among those specifically targeted will be the public servants who scrutinise the states' spending of federal money to ensure the money is not wasted.

In a keynote economic speech delivered in Melbourne yesterday, Mr Abbott said he would establish a commission of audit which would report within four months on all areas of government spending and recommend what spending and which programs could be abolished.

He said the creation of the independent audit commission, which would be similar to one John Howard commissioned in 1996 upon winning government, would be preceded in priority only by abolishing the carbon tax and instructing the navy to turn back asylum seeker boats.

The opposition has already promised to abolish 12,000 federal public servant jobs in its first two years if elected.

Mr Abbott said yesterday he would tell his audit commission to focus on the Health and Education departments and the Defence Materiel Organisation. ...<cont>


Abbott plans cuts in health, defence and education jobs:
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/abbott-plans-cuts-in-health-defence-and-education-jobs-20120309-1upqn.html


#2:
Quote:
What do punters and economists have in common? Both like to delude themselves budgets can be balanced by relatively painless cuts in government ''waste'' and ''profligacy'' without resorting to unspeakable, unthinkable tax increases.

Both like to imagine wasteful and unnecessary government spending is almost infinite and easy to identify and eliminate. Both don't like to admit the obvious: that what's wasteful to my eyes is vitally necessary to the voters and businesses that benefit from it ....


Abbott's audit will find all the cuts he won't make:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/abbotts-audit-will-find-all-the-cuts-he-wont-make-20120311-1usnz.html
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:10 pm
@msolga,
Good on you Ross Gittins.
Good to see a respected economics editor finally address the implications of the policies of both the major parties.
More please!

Here's how some of our cartoonists are responding to Abbott's plans today. (I'll probably experiencing the A2K "flooding" thing before I'm finished. As usual. Wink )

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/10/3114238/port-Wilcox-600x400.jpg

hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:11 pm
@msolga,
Quote:
He'll be establishing "a commission of audit" for advice about where to make those public sector cuts.


How long before we here the term 'razor gang'? It's been a while.

Biggest furphy of Australian politics? That the public service grows under the ALP and shrinks under the Libs. The Libs slash at the start then employ more when they realise they can't deliver squat without bodies. The ALP just keeps reducing over time. Both employ cartons of new staff for specific new programmes.

Mrs Hinge's office had 25 staff two years ago. Now it has 11 after latest VR offer. Workload for the office has gone up (in terms of contracts managed). Performing staff massively overloaded. Deadwood (yes, there is some) fumble on with little chance of being performance managed because of the ever increasing workload and pressures on the performers, so they hang around until the next machinery of government change (when responsibilities for functions switch portfolios) and the deadwood get shipped to another department, and if they're 'lucky' it'll take their new department a couple of years to come to the realisation they aren't really up to the job and then there will be another machinery of government change and they'll be shipped off to someone else.

Mrs Hinge is almost over it - but the occasional good news story for client group keeps her in there. Talk about a burning martyr. Her health is shot, anxiety attacks, bad dreams. I keep pushing her to at least get the VR numbers done (twenty years service) but she has this mistaken department loyalty thing going on that is beyond me. Get out, do some private enterprise thing for a year and then get snapped up by govt on it's next recruitment drive if you decide that's where you'd rather be.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:12 pm
@msolga,
Vote one Cath Wilcox for God.
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:13 pm
@msolga,
Tandberg's comment on the ACTU (Australian Council of Trade Unions) fight-back in response to Abbott's proposed public sector cuts.:

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/12/3117672/Tandberg-ACTU-12-March-600x400.gif
msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:18 pm
@msolga,
Happy Labour Day, Oz!

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/03/11/3116339/LI-gal-sharpe_20120311203553382226-600x400.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 07:27 pm
Knight (from today's "Hun")

Yikes, if she's prepared to screw her own (somewhat hopeless) family, imagine the lengths Gina will go to to avoid paying the "mining tax'!

Be prepared for lots & lots of full page advertisements in our papers, nasty anti-ALP ads on television, folks! You aint seen nothing yet.

And as for that "Australian of the year". Good grief! Rolling Eyes

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2012/03/12/1226296/622354-mark-knight-cartoon.jpg
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msolga
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 08:02 pm
@hingehead,
Quote:
How long before we here the term 'razor gang'? It's been a while.

Not too long to go, I'd say, hinge. Neutral
Though the Libs will make every effort to make their proposed slashing & burning of the public sector look squeaky clean & "fiscally responsible" prior to the election. It will be after a LNP election victory (Please no. Heaven help us!) that the full horror will emerge.

But we already know that, don't we? Why do Australian voters have such short memories?

My sympathy to Mrs Hinge. The demands of her job sound absolutely terrible. But I do understand about loyalty & commitment, too. (been there, done that ... to the detriment of my health. It's hard to remove or detach yourself when you're in the thick of it, and at a time like this. I couldn't, but wish I had at the time. Neutral )
Sigh.
I had no idea that conditions in the public service were quite so bad already. Truly awful to imagine what what they'd be like after an Abbott victory!

Me, I'm thoroughly sick & tired of this nonsense about "balance budgets" .
As if they are some incredibly desirable & virtuous achievement in themselves ... .
"Balancing the books" simply means severe reductions to (already reduced) public sector services, higher taxes, lots more pain for those already at the bottom of the pile .... etc, etc ...
I am delighted (& relieved) to see someone with the authority of Ross Gittins (the AGE/SMH ... see my initial post above) debunk this myth.
It's a con.
I am not arguing for massive government deficits, I'm saying that desirable & very necessary public services need to be supplied & paid for in a democratic society like ours.... and that, of course, means decent salaries & conditions for the people who supply those services. It is a matter of priorities, how our taxes are spent.
hingehead
 
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Reply Sun 11 Mar, 2012 08:32 pm
@msolga,
Quote:
It is a matter of priorities, how our taxes are spent.

And how (and how much) they are collected.
 

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