@Twirlip,
Twirlip;133582 wrote:I know one thing, but know it well:
Heaven must build its walls in Hell.
This sir is 100 percent pure genius......& an essential thing to standunder/understand.
Gaping at stars we trip on rats.
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William;133964 wrote:t. Heaven could be as simple as a smile and hell is what takes that smile away.
Well said, William. I concur. Symbolic interpretation of H & H. Heaven is Christ, or God in man, or man in God. Hell is the separation of time from eternity.......(not the cross which is a plus sign, representing the synthesis of heaven and hell, but just the minus sign, or negation, or the temporal as meaningless woe.....
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prothero;133734 wrote:I sort of think they are both imaginary mental constructs. Useful in manipulating those who fear one and hope for the other but an impediment to truth.
Yes, P. For the most part, sadly, that's how they are used. But isn't Heaven also a metaphor for the splendor of truth? An escape from carnal confusion into numinous eternity? And hell would be the disharmony of a centerless self.
Quote:
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?