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Are You a Citizen of the World?

 
 
RDRDRD1
 
Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 08:09 am
President Obama was castigated recently by eternal Republican wannabe, Newt Gingrich, for a speech then candidate Obama had given in Germany in which he declared himself a citizen of the United States but also a citizen of the world.

Gingrich wasn't gonna have any of that fancy, edumacated rot and said so, loudly pronouncing (to a collective sigh of relief heard round the planet) that he certainly wasn't some fancy pants Citizen of the World and implying that was patently un-American. Of course, when you're named for a pretty dim salamander, you can probably be forgiven for not remembering that your own American Idol, The Man hisself, Rompin' Ronnie Reagan, in his day also declared himself a Citizen of the World.

The question is, whether we like it or not, are we all becoming Citizens of the World? Is that a good or a bad thing? Where is it taking us? Should we embrace it? Can we resist it?
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Caroline
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 11:39 am
@RDRDRD1,
What does it mean exactly to be a citizen of the world? (sorry for my ignorance).
RDRDRD1
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 12:38 pm
@RDRDRD1,
In a legal sense there's little substantive in being a citizen of the world. It's more of an acknowledgement that strictly national identities are being supplemented by larger, global concerns and responsibilities. This leads to an acceptance of international actions and support for the various agencies charged with meeting global challenges - the World Court, the IPCC, international security and aid agencies.

I see it as a rejection of isolationism and a recognition that some of the institutions we crafted in the wake of WWII to organize and regulate our world may no longer serve as usefully as we had initially hoped. It reflects the inescapable fact that we are now much more inter-related and interdependent than before and likewise more engaged in each other's destinies which demands new levels of co-operation and shared responsibilities.

- Rob
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Zetetic11235
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 12:41 pm
@Caroline,
Given that Newt Gingrich holds a PHD, I would say that at least he is more educated than Obama, weather it counts for much is a different story. He has made intelligent comments as well as less intelligent ones.

I am not a citizen of the world by definition. I can't go a live in any country I wish to and the policy of other countries still only tangentially affects me. The reverse may not be true, but so is the nature of power, the country with the most of it has the most influence.

Honestly, I don't trust Obama, nor do I trust any of the slime politicians. This hope and change b.s. is ludicrous and I think that the result of this term will be a whole wave of cynical voters. A great deal of moronic ideas are floating around, like trying to bring in a new gvernment healthcare system taht we cannot afford. So far, it has been admitted that only .25 % of the jobs that were promised have been provided, but they were not created, they were 'saved' and created. A curious rhetorical comment that really seems to mean nothing.

A populist primo bullshitter proceeding an incompetent nutbag who thinks he has devine purpose, sounds great, America the brave!
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William
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 12:44 pm
@Caroline,
Caroline;68306 wrote:
What does it mean exactly to be a citizen of the world? (sorry for my ignorance).


To answer that question, let me just say this. No one, as long as gold rules. Rather than it's citizens, we will become it's slaves. Let me leave it at that.
William
BrightNoon
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 02:56 pm
@William,
I am a citizen of the state of Pennsylvania and of the United States of America, not of the world. No 'global governance' for me thanks
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Didymos Thomas
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jun, 2009 03:02 pm
@William,
Caroline;68306 wrote:
What does it mean exactly to be a citizen of the world? (sorry for my ignorance).


I see no reason to bind the term to some ideology. A citizen is someone who inhabits a particular community, so to be a citizen of the world is to be someone who inhabits the global community.

Obviously, we all live in the world. But are we part of that community?

It is strange that a politician like Gingrich does not understand himself to be or even want to be a citizen of the world. As a prominent American politician (well, he was one) Gingrich had a responsibility to acknowledge his role in the global community - Congressmen make decisions which involve the US's relationship with the rest of the global community.

What about us? I think we are all necessarily citizens of the world, active members in this global community. We do make regular use of the internet.

Zetetic11235;68321 wrote:
I am not a citizen of the world by definition. I can't go a live in any country I wish to and the policy of other countries still only tangentially affects me. The reverse may not be true, but so is the nature of power, the country with the most of it has the most influence.


You cannot live in any[i/] country you like, but you do have options. The policies of other nations have no real direct influence on you, that is true, but there are policies made on a global scale that affect you as much as they do anyone else.
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Caezius
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2009 10:39 pm
@RDRDRD1,
It depends on what type of citizen of the world you speak of. Much like Obama did, I can declare myself a citizen of the world today, but it has no real physical meaning. If you mean this, then that is cleary cosmopolitanism.

If you put a real political meaning behind this however, the ideology changes. What if we all were subject or citizens to a global authority instead of multiple regional ones. Will that change the current stae of things for the better or the worse?
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nameless
 
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Reply Fri 12 Jun, 2009 11:49 pm
@RDRDRD1,
A 'citizen' of this species?
A 'citizen' of this family?
A 'citizen' of this neighborhood?
A 'citizen' of this city?
A 'citizen' of this state?
A 'citizen' of this country?
A 'citizen' of this planet?
A 'citizen' of this galazy?
A 'citizen' of this Universe?

'Citizen'; a 'feature' of?
An integral part of?
An isolated unit in a local context?

Round and round it goes...
Where to draw the 'isolation' line; the "I care about and respect us ~vs~ the fluck you!" line?
The 'us' ~vs~ 'them' line?
Personally, I generally don't have one.
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