The Will Before the Thought

I am starting this thread in hopes of getting some opinons on the actual spark of the thought process to see how many here can take themselves to the brink where things really begin.

First of all, I find that a great many intelligent and well thought out persons often refuse to look deep enough into some of these issues to really reach a truly beneficial argument. They make their opinions known and then when questioned only go so far to respond to them.

Of course us Intelligent Design advocates are accused of exactly the same thing with regard to the origin of life but this is different. This is an issue that can be dramatically argued alot further based on factual evidence, unlike the issue of creation which is always going to be speculative.

Now to the point!

In recent experiments using HCI, Human Computer Interface, neurologist specialists have been able to design some very interesting technologies that use thought impulses from the brain to manipulate external devices such as keyboards, wheelchairs, voice boxes, etc.

One such technology, available on the market already through Ambion Inc., has a device that is strapped to the neck and without even having to actually make a sound one can cause a computer to voice the words they are thinking. By thinking the word they can have this voice box that they are wearing say the word for them.

in another expreiment a totally paralyzed man is able to manipulate the mouse on a computer screen with thought alone, simply by thinking what he wants the mouse to do, it will move and perform the functions. he can also manipulate a mechanical device hooked up to the computer with his thoughts.

Now the first thing biology advocates are going to say is that this is a just another matter of the electrical impulses of the brain causing these things to move just like they stimulate the muscles to move.

But first of all, these devices are not cochial implants or prosthesis, they are computer chips hooked up to the brain cells that are reading the electrical/thought impulses of the brain and then turning those thought impulses into reaction by the computer interface with the device.

Now my argument here is that those who simply suggest that this is mere electrical impulse stimulation are just not looking at the deeper ramifications here. And the scientists will concur with me on this one.

Thought does not just randomly bounce around in our heads as a particular electrical impulse waiting to be used. There is no designated electrical impulse that one can tap into to move a mouse cursor on a computer screen for instance.

the thought has to be willed by the person first, and THEN the impulses are triggered for that particular reaction.

Biology theorists here are trying to suggest that the reaction comes first. What comes first is the person's desire or want, the thought to move something in particular. Then , after the thought is provoked or summoned by the will of that person, and only then, can that impulse be caught by a computer interface and transmitted into a reactionary force.

Until the person thinks the thought, the thought does not exist. So it wouldnt matter how many probes were stuck in his head, or how many computers he was hooked up to, all the elctrical impulses emanating from that brain cell would not operate anything, until the person created the thoguht to accomplish it.

This is one of the problems they had acclimating the patients to this process. It took some time for the patient to develop the mental ability to project the thought process to the computer.

Now what I would like to address here isn't so much the scientific detail, but eh indepth process of thought prejection before it ever evn becomes an electrical impulse.

Can we consider what that means?

here are some links for pre-study if interested. Under the first link read the section called cyborg speller.


http://www.phschool.com/science/science_news/articles/matrix_realized.html


http://www.mindmodulations.com


http://www.theaudeo.com/


http://speechlab.bu.edu/prosthetics.php


http://www.phschool.com/science/science_news/articles/matrix_realized.html