Psychic or Psychotic?

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Psychic or Psychotic?

With this in mind, one might ask, "What is the difference between being mentally ill and prophetic?" My own psychiatrist once gave me the answer:
[CENTER] People who hear voices and see things that aren't there can be classified into two groups. The first group are people who cannot cope with these voices and are called mentally ill. The second group are people who can cope with the voices and are called psychic. It is my personal belief that being psychic and being psychotic are the same thing depending upon how you cope with it. Society in general regards people who talk to God as holy. But society in general regards people whom God talks to as insane.
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Manic depression has been called a brilliant madness because of the expansive ideas that psychosis can create. In days of old, people recognized how mental illness can even be a gift. Socrates once declared, "Our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, provided the madness is given us by divine gift." Plato referred to insanity as: "a divine gift and the source of the chief blessings granted to men." Native American Indians believed that their voice hearers revealed messages that had great spiritual significance.

The idea of the mad scientist can probably be traced to the grandiose thoughts that intelligent mentally ill people can have. John Nash, a lifetime schizophrenic, received the Nobel Laureate in Economics and his life was portrayed in the movie A Beautiful Mind. Other famous mentally ill people are: Beethoven, Tolstoy, Van Gogh, Keats, Hemingway, Dickens, Faulkner, Fitzgerald, Emerson, and Woolf, to name just a few.

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@Alan McDougall,

It is often a thin line between madness and genius.
See "Touched by Fire" by Kay Redfield Jamison John Hopkins psychiatrist and who suffers from manic depressive illness

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@prothero,

prothero;147517 wrote:

It is often a thin line between madness and genius.
See "Touched by Fire" by Kay Redfield Jamison John Hopkins psychiatrist and who suffers from manic depressive illness

Thanks for responding. I have red her book and like her I am a bipolar sufferer now well controlled thank god and modern medicine

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@Alan McDougall,

I have seen many sides of this coin. I am ADD myself, which is officially classified as a disorder and I will be the first to agree that it comes with serious problems.
But I would still rather see it as a difference. It enables me to think in ways that no one around me can follow.
Some of the people very close to me suffer from a wide variety of other disorders, up to and including schizophrenia.
It is said that the hottest fire forges the best metal and I tend to agree. Those that are hit hardest by the flukes of life often turn out to have the most wonderful characters and the most beautiful minds.

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@sarek,

sarek;148222 wrote:

I have seen many sides of this coin. I am ADD myself, which is officially classified as a disorder and I will be the first to agree that it comes with serious problems.
But I would still rather see it as a difference. It enables me to think in ways that no one around me can follow.
Some of the people very close to me suffer from a wide variety of other disorders, up to and including schizophrenia.
It is said that the hottest fire forges the best metal and I tend to agree. Those that are hit hardest by the flukes of life often turn out to have the most wonderful characters and the most beautiful minds.

Different, not less.

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@Alan McDougall,

Psychic abilities either don't exist or don't influence too much. When's the last time you saw a headline, "psychic wins lottery"?

Psychosis and other mental disease, as generally considered, doesn't exist. There's only responsible or unresponsible behavior. Responsibility as defined by living in coherence with the reality of our mental, emotional, physical & social lives.

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@Brian phil,

Brian;148313 wrote:

Psychic abilities either don't exist or don't influence too much. When's the last time you saw a headline, "psychic wins lottery"?

Psychosis and other mental disease, as generally considered, doesn't exist. There's only responsible or unresponsible behavior. Responsibility as defined by living in coherence with the reality of our mental, emotional, physical & social lives.

The reason you don't see any psychics winning the lotto is because in my opinion, psychic gifts can not be controlled or forced, they must just happen as they happen

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@Alan McDougall,

Alan McDougall;148406 wrote:

The reason you don't see any psychics winning the lotto is because in my opinion, psychic gifts can not be controlled or forced, they must just happen as they happen

How about a more rational explanation? Psychic abilities are not real? They are usually made up by people pretending to have abilities that they do not or by people who have mental illnesses.

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@Krumple,

Krumple;148432 wrote:

How about a more rational explanation? Psychic abilities are not real? They are usually made up by people pretending to have abilities that they do not or by people who have mental illnesses.

Maybe you are correct , but there just might be people who can actually perform in the field of the mystical and psychic world. For instant Intuition happens but up to now it cant be proved by science

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@Alan McDougall,

In psychosis U have different perspective. Timeless.

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@Alan McDougall,

Alan McDougall;148438 wrote:

Maybe you are correct , but there just might be people who can actually perform in the field of the mystical and psychic world. For instant Intuition happens but up to now it cant be proved by science

Fair enough Alan, but until they present themselves, I will remain skeptical.

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@Krumple,

Psychic or Psychotic?
BOTH

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@Krumple,

Krumple;148579 wrote:

Fair enough Alan, but until they present themselves, I will remain skeptical.

I am mr Sceptic my-self. Constructed rational World. Accepted flaws because I wanted to leave village. Went to Schools, Colleges, Uni's but never learned as much as in my Psy-chaos. It is so hard to explain. TYM

Sincerely,
Pepijn Smile

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@Alan McDougall,

Alan McDougall;147475 wrote:

Society in general regards people who talk to God as holy. But society in general regards people whom God talks to as insane.

Well in Denmark ..we call both insane/crazy ..and stupid, well no offence.

Where was your god at the Final Solution which you always speak of, where are god in general? Those atheist nations do in general better than the religious nations, or buddhism v christianity?

Ain't you just chasing ghost?

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@HexHammer,

HexHammer;159524 wrote:

Well in Denmark ..we call both insane/crazy ..and stupid, well no offence.

Where was your god at the Final Solution which you always speak of, where are god in general? Those atheist nations do in general better than the religious nations, or buddhism v christianity?

Ain't you just chasing ghost?

Oh!! You continue to insult a persons intellect instead of debating in a meaningful way

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@Alan McDougall,

Alan McDougall;159802 wrote:

Oh!! You continue to insult a persons intellect instead of debating in a meaningful way

It IS a meaningful way.

To any claim proposed or postulate, one are inclined to make an answer, it is meaningful as long as it isn't just slander, insults ..BUT it will answer the questions, the essense, clarify the nature of the subject, or make sound questions to the subject.

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