Mind and Matter

Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 12:33 am
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there are only two things in the universe--consciousness, and matter. matter, is all that we can see around us of which everything is made in the universe and includes our own bodies.

matter is a manifestation of divine intelligence known to the ancient philosopher hermes trismegistus as "the all" because all of manifested creation solely exists within the mind of the all, or god as we know it today. it is fact that is hermetically sealed.

therefore, is matter subject to the wills and efforts of the infinite in its aspect of manifested being? it is pure spirit, an intelligent force of enormous infinite proportions that is not very well understood by the majority of people.

to separate consciousness and matter would be a folly that will raise more questions than answers and would deepen the mystery of this phenomenon. science has already established the fact, that there are no such things as "solid objects."

a few quantum physicists have found in their research that atoms behave as though they are intelligent because they have been known to communicate with each other. each of them knows their place in the order of things.

atoms are known to not only behave as particles but as wave forms of energy as well. when they behave as a wave form, they defy known physical laws and known methods of measurements which are attributes of the space/time continuum. the wave forms of atoms are not material by nature, but are manifestations of infinite

consciousness, a non-local field of intelligence that science knows very little about at the moment. even when an atom manifests as a particle, it is still not as "material" as we think it is because sometimes it is at two places at the same time. it becomes impossible to measure, or make any sense out of known physical laws.

in its creative aspect, infinite mind, the all, god or super consciousness generates enormous waves of vibratory energy through the effort of its will and manifests the sub-atomic and atomic particles of which all manifested matter in the universe is made.

all manifested matter is subject to its will and efforts and behave according to firmly established known, and unknown laws of physics which are yet to be uncovered by science. there is nothing that can escape its mind, because all manifested matter solely exists within the infinite mind of the all. no human qualities can be ascribed to it.

there is nothing that can be added or subtracted from its infinite stature because it has no boundaries or edges in space to add or subtract from.

it does not learn anything because it knows everything. it is no respecter of beliefs, skin color, social standing, religion, government, country, and does not favor anybody or anything.

it is unconditional in the manifestation of life and the love it has for its creation. man has the responsibility to understand the final result of his or her choices which follow firmly established unconditional universal rules which behave as a door that swings in both directions.

the higher law always transcends the lower known laws of physics and is known to the ancient hierophants, adepts and masters of a long forgotten past.

the ancients, by their knowledge and wisdom overrule the lower laws by using the higher law to such a degree, that they have overcome physical death itself and established immortality.

they are fully aware that the cycles of life, death, and rebirth are immutable. they armed themselves with knowledge that enabled them to use the art of polarization by establishing themselves high on the scale of life, and thus allowed the swing of the pendulum to pass below their present state of consciousness. they learnt to escape the cycles.

this is a mental law that affects the physical body in a very profound way because "matter" is subject to "mind."

a belief system that is based on preconceived notions is deadly. i believe that "salvation" is an escape from death and disease which is mentioned in the scriptures. there are many passages in the scriptures that refer to immortality.

for example, "oh death, where is thy sting?" oh grave, where is thy victory? (i corinthians: 15 verse 55 and 56) not as it is interpreted by organized religion based on presumptuous ideas.

death and the grave can only apply to the physical body which is subject to the law of entropy. there is an aspect to ourselves that is non material, is not subject to entropy and gives life to the body. entropy belongs to the realm of the space/time continuum and can be overruled by the higher mental law. when this unconditional mental law is knowingly utilized, it will cause a paradigm shift in the body and bring vibrant life and health.

"alien" life forms have also been known to use the higher law by walking through "solid" objects that the world only knows can happen in hollywood's "star trek." little do they realize that a time will come where this becomes a common everyday practice and a way of life. the current collective consciousness has not yet evolved to that point, at least, not at the moment. it is for a good reason, no doubt!

significant technological advancements are closely connected to the spiritual development of this civilization. at the moment, most of technology is used in military applications because this civilization is still in the process of coping with fear.

when this trivia is overcome, the current forms of mechanical locomotion will become obsolete and new forms of power and energy will become manifest that will propel this civilization into the solar system and beyond.

no matter what we do or where we go, "the all" is an inescapable reality in the universe and holds all the secrets to life, matter, and phenomena within its mind.

Dualism (philosophy of mind)

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's illustration of dualism. Inputs are passed on by the sensory organs to the epiphysis in the brain and from there to the immaterial spirit.
In philosophy of mind, dualism is a set of views about the relationship between mind and matter, which begins with the claim that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical.[1]

Ideas on mind/body dualism originate at least as far back as Zarathushtra. Plato and Aristotle deal with speculations as to the existence of an incorporeal soul that bore the faculties of intelligence and wisdom. They maintained, for different reasons, that people's "intelligence" (a faculty of the mind or soul) could not be identified with, or explained in terms of, their physical body.[2][3]

A generally well-known version of dualism is attributed to (1641), which holds that the mind is a nonphysical substance. Descartes was the first to clearly identify the mind with consciousness and self-awareness and to distinguish this from the brain, which was the seat of intelligence. Hence, he was the first to formulate the mind-body problem in the form in which it exists today.[4] Dualism is contrasted with various kinds of monism, including physicalism and phenomenalism.

Substance dualism is contrasted with all forms of materialism, but property dualism may be considered a form of emergent materialism and thus would only be contrasted with non-emergent materialism.[5] This article discusses the various forms of dualism and the arguments which have been made both for and against this thesis.

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Reply Fri 26 Mar, 2010 06:39 pm
@Alan McDougall,
I have to say, I think the relationship between mind and matter is one of the primary metaphysical problems. I think Descartes dualism and Cartesian notions of time and space still dominate much thinking but both are actually in error.

When one decided mind was a completely different kind of substance from matter and could only explain their interaction by resorting to gods intervention, the slow slide to materialism began. First nature lost its soul and now it has lost its mind.

What is mind? What are the fundamental properties of mind? What types of entities or objects possess primitive properties of mind? At what point in the chain of existence or being do the first manifestations of mind appear?

My response is that mind can not be separated from matter. That mind in its most primitive and extensive forms is inherent in and widespread in nature. That perception and experience extend all the way down to the core of nature. That the materialist notion of mind as a rare, emergent and epiphenomena of matter is mistaken. It is this perception of mind which cause one to view the universe as primarily a machine (dead, inert, insensate, mechanical and deterministic). In fact the universe is more like a living organism (enchanted, mysterious, perceptive and experiential. The universe is not composed primarily of material substances but is composed of events (process) which have both mental and material properties or manifestations.
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Reply Thu 16 Dec, 2010 10:45 pm
Remember (I fought of saying keep in mind) that both "mind" and "matter" are mental constructions.
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Reply Sat 7 Oct, 2023 02:22 pm
@Alan McDougall,
Wow! You really express yourself extremely well. All I have to say is that my thinking is that mind equals matter/matter equals mind. These are two different aspects of a single thing. Everything in the Universe is a "construct" of the all knowing mind. The all knowing mind embodies everything that is possible within the Universe.
Reply Sat 7 Oct, 2023 07:08 pm
You are part of a "rock", an unmoving movie, nothing else!

I've always had some laughs when I see these debates about Materialism versus Spiritualism...can you guess what is funny about them?

You see deep down we barely can define matter...there is very little of it the further down you go on the microscope ladder...when you really get all the way down you start calling it odd names like Information or energy fields...

Now don't you go thinking that I took the Spiritualist side instead...you see Spiritualism to make sense as a concept has to establish itself in opposition to Materialism...when one gets to understand we barely have a grasp on the first we immediately come to the conclusion the second is not even conceptually sound...

What is Spiritualism opposed to Materialism even supposed to mean eh?
Mind? No! I have the experience of having a mind but I cannot be sure there is anything else but the phenomenological experience of having a mind!
Self? No! There are many voices debating each other inside my "mind"...

All we have are the god damned experiences and their order, absolutely nothing else is certain, no mind never matter!
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