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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 01:02 pm
What links the need for dominance and power to wanting to commit sex crimes?

What is it in the way the human mind is wired which causes some men (and a smaller number of women) to get off on the pain of others?
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xris
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 01:27 pm
@ItMustBeKate,
ItMustBeKate;101815 wrote:
What links the need for dominance and power to wanting to commit sex crimes?

What is it in the way the human mind is wired which causes some men (and a smaller number of women) to get off on the pain of others?
Fortunately i have never had this compulsion or desire and like many human failings the persecutor nor the observer can be fully aware of the reasoning. I might make the observation, if i was learned, in assuming it is a lack of self esteem that drives them to dominate and so make them feel less impotent.
Kroni
 
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Reply Wed 4 Nov, 2009 05:55 pm
@xris,
Sex is control, and it is not just humans who feel this way. Every sexual animal in existence strives to "win" the biological competition of sex. The male birds build nests, the rams head-wrestle. It all boils down to control. When the male has sex he has control over the female. He is making her feel the way she feels, whether she likes it or not. Sex is a form of surrendering and penetration. A sexual predator will enjoy this feeling of overpowering control and want more. They will sexually invade others without permission because it is not the physical feeling that they are interested in, but the mental feeling that they have power over someone.
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HexHammer
 
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Reply Wed 10 Mar, 2010 09:39 am
@ItMustBeKate,
ItMustBeKate;101815 wrote:
What links the need for dominance and power to wanting to commit sex crimes?
I don't know the excat connection between these 2 things, but sex crimes imo are driven by an psycosis which can be permanent or tempoary mixed with an overstimulated sexdrive

ItMustBeKate;101815 wrote:
What is it in the way the human mind is wired which causes some men (and a smaller number of women) to get off on the pain of others?
Sadism can be induced through bad upbringing, or just be a genetic disfunct, that the person needs to either live out their inner fustration/pain through sadism, or just finds it appealing and "natural" just as some people are stimulated by watching other people in full suit of latex.

The nature of the sadism can be divided into many subcategories.
- verbal abuse.
- pain infliction
- victim vocal aknowledgement of suffering
..etc
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Fido
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2010 04:47 pm
@ItMustBeKate,
ItMustBeKate;101815 wrote:
What links the need for dominance and power to wanting to commit sex crimes?

What is it in the way the human mind is wired which causes some men (and a smaller number of women) to get off on the pain of others?

Since most victimizers were once victims, I would look there for your reason... Violence in general is a form of communication, and it expresses what no one can put into words...Violence is what it expresses...But all sex without love is a form of violence as is any act without love... We say fk... One moment it can refer to sex and the next to violence; and who are the victims??? Just as children were once the victims and were powerless, the rapist seeks a reversal of the situation, becoming the scary one, and the powerful one...Yet we are all victims in one form or another... What makes one person love his pain and not wish to share it, and another hateful of it and wishing to give it to anyone possible???

Some people because of a defect, and I am thinking of mass murderes, and serial killers here, cannot relate, cannot sympathize, cannot feel the pain of others, or grasp even the magnitude of their own lives or the misery they cause... Like a child pulling the wings off a fly and with as little concern, they pull off the wings of angels, and send them to a hell on earth...They are not human, because they do not get something essential to all humans at birth... It is the ability to relate...
Deckard
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2010 04:55 pm
@Fido,
In other species, and in our own, there is often some form of violent competition between males for mating rights before the actual mating. I sometimes wonder if the sexual violence is in part due to a conflation of this violent competition and the actual mating happening at the level of instincts and basic drives. That's why I usually beat up somebody before I have sex with the woman I love.
Fido
 
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Reply Thu 11 Mar, 2010 08:30 pm
@Deckard,
Deckard;138741 wrote:
In other species, and in our own, there is often some form of violent competition between males for mating rights before the actual mating. I sometimes wonder if the sexual violence is in part due to a conflation of this violent competition and the actual mating happening at the level of instincts and basic drives. That's why I usually beat up somebody before I have sex with the woman I love.

Beat some body??? Let me guess who...
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Ascendere
 
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Reply Mon 22 Mar, 2010 04:29 pm
@Fido,
Fido;138739 wrote:
Since most victimizers were once victims, I would look there for your reason... Violence in general is a form of communication, and it expresses what no one can put into words...Violence is what it expresses...But all sex without love is a form of violence as is any act without love... We say fk... One moment it can refer to sex and the next to violence; and who are the victims??? Just as children were once the victims and were powerless, the rapist seeks a reversal of the situation, becoming the scary one, and the powerful one...Yet we are all victims in one form or another... What makes one person love his pain and not wish to share it, and another hateful of it and wishing to give it to anyone possible???

Some people because of a defect, and I am thinking of mass murderes, and serial killers here, cannot relate, cannot sympathize, cannot feel the pain of others, or grasp even the magnitude of their own lives or the misery they cause... Like a child pulling the wings off a fly and with as little concern, they pull off the wings of angels, and send them to a hell on earth...They are not human, because they do not get something essential to all humans at birth... It is the ability to relate...


First of i dont see why sex without love is violent. Are you saying casual sex is violence? I do though agree with what you say about violence. Nothing can send a stonger message than violent action. As to your qestion about those that love their pain and thats those that spread it, it all depends on the person's mentality. Sometimes you feel like your powerless and just accept, even embrace, the undesirable circumstances in which you find yourself. At other times you get tired of being down "trodden" and unsatisfied, retaliation seems to be the only option thats not just taking things sumbmissively. In either case there must be a complete loss of all hope in the persons view of the world.
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