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Recognizing what is wrong?

 
 
William
 
Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2010 07:15 am
You thinkers, I would like for you to think about something. I can't. You guys are used to it, ha, I'm not. I never could be forced to learn. I could only learn what came naturally or easy for me; I could not allow otherwise. I would rebel if anyone tried to force me to do anything that was not. If it was difficult...............screw it. Now that's me, what I am going to propose is.....................it's you too. The difference is what comes easy for you could be so very difficult for me and visa versa.

To understand the title of this thread will take a group think. It will take understanding as much as we can about what "COGNITION, RECOGNITION, PRECOGNITION and META-COGNITION are and how they apply to the individual in all texts and contexts. "IF" we can do that, understand these words and what they mean in the SIMPLEST sense, we can solve ALL our problems.

As many of you know, I live in dictionaries and the one I use and like the most is ANSWERS.com; Wiki is ok if one really wants to get totally comprehensive and bogged down, but I find Answers is one that offers easier to understand definitions over all. I like easy, best.

Cognition: Act or process of knowing. Cognition includes every mental process that may be described as an experience of knowing (including perceiving, recognizing, conceiving, and reasoning), as distinguished from an experience of feeling or of willing.

Re-cognition: (Now here is where it gets a little "sticky" so rather than get bogged down let's, for simplicity sake, just call it memory). What we know that we have known before "that we can recall, IF WE CAN recall it".

Precognition: Ha, this is really sticky one. The knowing of something that hasn't happen yet. Whew! Now what causes that? Is that real, or is it a fine tuned deductive reasoning that can be summed up in adding 2 + 2 in a future sense that will create a real outcome? The paranormal ability to foresee events before they happen, and before there is normal evidence that they are going to happen. Whilst few philosophers believe that this power exists, the question of whether it is even possible that it should exist raises deep questions about time, causation, and the fixity or otherwise of the future. Now let's just leave this one alone, for now anyway. Perhaps, later?

Meta-cognition: Meta-cognition refers to a level of thinking that involves active control over the process of thinking that is used in learning situations. Planning the way to approach a learning task, monitoring comprehension, and evaluating the progress towards the completion of a task: these are skills that are meta-cognitive in their nature. Similarly, maintaining motivation to see a task to completion is also a meta-cognitive skill. The ability to become aware of distracting stimuli - both internal and external - and sustain effort over time also involves meta-cognitive or executive functions. The theory that meta-cognition has a critical role to play in successful learning means it is important that it be demonstrated by both students and teachers. Students who demonstrate a wide range of metacognitive skills perform better on exams and complete work more efficiently. They are self-regulated learners who utilize the "right tool for the job" and modify learning strategies and skills based on their awareness of effectiveness. Individuals with a high level of meta-cognitive knowledge and skill identify blocks to learning as early as possible and change "tools" or strategies to ensure goal attainment. The meta-cognologist is aware of their own strengths and weaknesses, the nature of the task at hand, and available "tools" or skills. A broader repertoire of "tools" also assists in goal attainment. When "tools" are general, generic, and context independent, they are more likely to be useful in different types of learning situations.

Now this is the type thinker I am except what is expressed here is having an active control. I don't think control has anything to do with it. To control something means there is a lack of control somewhere when all should just come "naturally". In other words to a metacognologist it would be no task? "Who does the planning for the completion of a TASK? Natural ability to learn should not be by reason of force. FORCE SUCKS. In other words what one can learn that comes easy for them to learn and all are different in their own particular ability. It is only a task if it requires effort. This ability, when recognized and understood will cross cultures and can be understood as UNIVERSAL THOUGHT on a global scale. That's WE thinking, not ME thinking, ha! Collective consciousness comes to mind here? Hmm?

It is all four of these words and what they mean coming to fruition. How long that will take will be dependent if we can will stop forcing people to learn what they are not 'comfortable' with or what comes easy for them. Now how can we do that and WHY do we force it? Perhaps to survive?

Here is where thinking gets complicated and how power is involved. If one is powerful or has the means to force one to go beyond what is easy for them then they can enslave that mind to do their bidding. Now what does that mean. It's a more in depth understanding of what "THOU SHALT NOT STEAL" means. Now one may say it is not stealing because they are paid well for using that mind for another. They bought it, they own it and it is their's to do with as they please. What..........a...........crock!!!!!! They don't have the cognitive ability on their own so they buy another. That's BS.

Now what a person knows or his cognitive ability is what he has learned in his existence; all his existence not just what he holds in memory and allowing that to come forth. What he holds in memory could be a deterrent and is, if what he has been forced to learn is not compatible with what he is naturally re-cognitive of in MIND. This is the overall memory much of which is what I call malignant and can be force on one by reading what we have recorded of our past in all the tomes of knowledge that is available to learn from. In other words SYSTEM OVER LOAD. Learning to much of the wrong stuff and causing confusion and a whole hell of a lot of "otherwords" we don't need that float round in our mental processing structure.

Now let's go back to cognition and what we know and recognizing that easily. That is what we must learn to do so all can do that. Easy is where it's at and difficult is not. And all are different in what they can learn easily. One's ability to learn is easy; it's what capacity he can learn that is taken advantage of that causes problems. Ha, now I need you to help me understand what I said there. Ha!

If the compensation is great enough we will stretch to make things work when they shouldn't and here we have what is called "error factors" and we have learned to survive with those. Now what does error mean. Close but not plum. Ha! Close don't count. Now if we could just allow all to be more cognitive of what they can offer naturally and easily without entrapment or force we would be able to solve all our problems globally. Allow people to be re-cognizant on all levels. From the top down and the bottom up without judging which is which.

On an aside for a sec. with a thought that just came to me about "otherwords". When one begins to think easily or naturally, negative or un-useful words begin to be recognized and avoided and by eliminating those one begins to speak truthfully or positively. That sounds good to me so I am going to stick with it and see how right I am, ha! (End of aside)

Now let's observe the word "recognition" for a moment as it applies to another definition. ATTENTION AND FAVORABLE NOTICE. One being recognized for "something", and why? You tell me? I don't have a clue when it comes to the many other definitions that relate to cognition or re-cognition; can you think of any? Then why do we use it in that regard? He was "highly recognized" in the field of.........? So? Now what? What does that mean to be highly recognized. By who?

Here's a little something I would like you to consider to start doing and notice the response. You may not notice anything but I promise you the other person will. The next time you go to a restaurant or any commercial establishment where the employees where name tags start calling that person or recognizing them by 'their name'. As a matter of fact, don't begin to address them until you know what their name is. Personally I think it rude to use pronouns when the person is present and the name is known and "hey, you" raises my blood's temperature, ha! Now that's just me. I find it offensive and inconsiderate when anyone uses "he" or "him" or "she or "her" when they know the name. It takes a little effort to do that and make it common place, but I think you will be surprised at the change in "aura"* that exists between you and total strangers when or if you can make a habit of doing this.

*Aura. This is a word we don't use much but I promise you it exists in both positive and negative observances. The negative is much more observable because it is the most common, unfortunately. Positive aura is what we want and when one is recognized favorably even in the slightest degree a positive aura ensues allowing a "peace" or a "matter of trust" begins to take form. Not a physical "form" but an intangible connection that allows the mind to be "at ease", if only for a short time.

Let me relate an brief occurrence that just happened yesterday. I was at the hospital going through my monthly "appraisial", ha, and I noticed a complete stranger, a lady, wearing a sweatshirt with an embroidered
"Mimi's Dance School" with little toddlers depicted on it in Tutu's. I said "Hi, you must be Mimi" right out of the clear blue. She nodded and a big smile came across her face and she just continued on, but the look was priceless. I caught her pleasantly off guard and she felt really please with that little bit of "recognition". It doesn't take much but we all like to be recognized. The problem is too much recognition and living up to that, what can only be described as an, image. No one can deal with that.
This is an instance of "a little goes a long way". Now I have no idea of how she will pass on what I can imagine has never happened to her before; being recognized by a total stranger buy just calling her by name, but somehow I know it will.

Now I am going to offer a statement here that can be very complicated to understand for there is no set procedure to quantify it. When a person is recognized positively they then have reason not to fear and that offers a familiarity with the immediate surroundings enabling the mind a respite from erroneous thinking, briefly, thereby allowing it to be more "re-cognitive" and associate what it holds in memory that is also positive for that person to "unite" without interference from all that is in memory that is antagonistic to that positive association and they begin to think clearly as only that person can do in regards to them only. In that respect if that is passed on to another, such minute positive recognitions, to all anyone meets.....................what? Hmmm?

(Oh and by the way, patronization sucks, so just don't do it. If you don't mean it then just "SHUT UP and say nothing!)

That persons cognitive ability is allowed "freedom to function". I know the example I offered above is just a minor occurrence but something was transferred from me to her that is not quantifiable. What's in a name, huh! I recognized her and she appreciated that and all I got was a smile in return. Damn, what a great reward that was and from a absolutely complete stranger.

Now I am older than most of you here, at least physically, but mentally I am younger than I have ever been in my life because I think that way. I don't carry around a lot of the mental baggage most do and my thoughts and my cognitive ability to connect "loose 'positive' ends" is increasing exponentially. Ha, call it my synaptic ability; my synapses are firing more efficiently, ha! I can only hope with my mind working so efficiently, my brain can work more efficiently and keep this old tired body going a little bit longer, Ha! Who knows, as far a getting older I might start getting younger, ha! Hey, I can dream, can't I. Ha!

Now the title of this thread is what is important here. If we can recognize each other in such way that will offer a peace to exist between us we can forgive and forget. Now let me take that down to a lower level. When the mind is free to function cognitively, naturally, we will forget what it holds that was forced that causes confusion, guilt, worry, stress that creates "head aches". Believe it or not, I never get headaches, ha! Well, a couple of hangovers in my time, but that was all, and those went away. The only thing that I have is a constant ringing in my ears and I don't even think about that. I'm used to it. One of these days hopefully I'll come to understand what that is all about, but until then...............?

How most of you will regard this post is not known. I can only hope it had an affect that will allow your "synapses" to fire like mine and use what is unique in your thought processes to equivocate it or offer it more reason to establish if that which I am offering has merit.

Recognizing what is wrong must first be done by the individual in themselves by forgetting what they have learned they should not have learned and forgiving themselves for striving to learn it for survival purposes. It is not so much in recognizing what is wrong, but recognizing what is right will allow anyone to "FORGET" leaving nothing but clarity of right thinking and then there is nothing "LEFT" but that.

We can all help each other do that by offering a little more recognition and that does take a little effort to remember to do that. I can only imagine the "boomerang" effect it could have if all did that. Maybe that is what heaven is all about? Hmmm? To understand, forgive, forget and proceed and one can only do that when there synapses are firing rightly. That can't be forced; it's a natural phenomenon/occurrence. A little recognition here, please. Ha!:whistling:

William
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Fido
 
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Reply Sat 20 Feb, 2010 12:31 pm
@William,
Thought as a process needs information...The less you know the less fruit your thought will bear, and what usually happens is that such trees are turned into fire wood rather than shade...

I know a lot, but I am certain many people have thought me retarded at times because most of the early stuff had to be pounded in with a hammer... So, the problem for me was in forming a complete life narrative out of scattered bits and pieces... At first it was a jigsaw puzzle with only a few pieces connected, with nothing complete... The challenge was to build on nothing, but once that was accomplished then I had larger and larger body of knowledge to add to, because in putting in relation, classifying knowledge, I was building up a more complete picture of reality... And this is essential to me, because I do not only want to learn some abstract, disconnected thought that will as soon escape me...

The object is to get knowledge in, and be able to draw it out of mind at will...I wish I could give you the name of the Persian or Arabic philosopher who did not early on apply himself to education with the proper dilligence, and in fact, he left home without his education complete...Then, sitting at a well he noticed how a rock had become deeply grooved by the friction of a rope, and thought, if this rock can become so cut by the insigificant though repetitive act of drawing water, then through a similar effort his mind might be trained to learn... Much of education is repetition, for what we do often we remember often doing... Then, as is made note of by Aristitotle, or Plato, what a poet said: that people do what they do well, and to this they give the chief of all their days...No one courts failure in their daily routine... All people enjoy most what they can do well, and do not, like myself, constantly try new things even at the expense of failure in order to know how others feel by doing as they do...
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William
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2010 03:29 am
@William,
Fido;130320 wrote:
Thought as a process needs information...The less you know the less fruit your thought will bear, and what usually happens is that such trees are turned into fire wood rather than shade...

I know a lot, but I am certain many people have thought me retarded at times because most of the early stuff had to be pounded in with a hammer... So, the problem for me was in forming a complete life narrative out of scattered bits and pieces... At first it was a jigsaw puzzle with only a few pieces connected, with nothing complete... The challenge was to build on nothing, but once that was accomplished then I had larger and larger body of knowledge to add to, because in putting in relation, classifying knowledge, I was building up a more complete picture of reality... And this is essential to me, because I do not only want to learn some abstract, disconnected thought that will as soon escape me...

The object is to get knowledge in, and be able to draw it out of mind at will...I wish I could give you the name of the Persian or Arabic philosopher who did not early on apply himself to education with the proper diligence, and in fact, he left home without his education complete...Then, sitting at a well he noticed how a rock had become deeply grooved by the friction of a rope, and thought, if this rock can become so cut by the insignificant though repetitive act of drawing water, then through a similar effort his mind might be trained to learn... Much of education is repetition, for what we do often we remember often doing... Then, as is made note of by Aristotle, or Plato, what a poet said: that people do what they do well, and to this they give the chief of all their days...No one courts failure in their daily routine... All people enjoy most what they can do well, and do not, like myself, constantly try new things even at the expense of failure in order to know how others feel by doing as they do...


Hello Fido, I remember when I arrived at this forum your post was the first one I responded to. I can't think of a time when I have ever used the term abstract in my life with the exception of describing arguably arcane art. If one can call that stuff art. Perhaps that is what the mind produces when it is most confused and those who pay homage to it are confused too, so they "like" it. Even the word art in and of itself has so many definitions it causes me to wonder if we even know what art is anymore.
"In the eye of the beholder"? My god, what have some seen? Making sense/cents of what we sense? Hmmm?

Thanks for your response and your honesty. I especially liked the "bits and pieces" analogy. The water well was just as appropriate in that so many are in a rut when with just a little push or pull they could do so much more with what they have.

William
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Fido
 
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Reply Sun 21 Feb, 2010 04:48 am
@William,
All art is an abstraction, and so is every form, though some are perhaps more pure in a way, like math... Consider, that if a person has painted a picture of reality that reality has not changed, but some essence has been abstracted from it...But, this is no less true of math as an abstraction, that in order to be counted all things must be considered equal though in fact they never are unless considered abstactly...
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William
 
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Reply Tue 23 Feb, 2010 01:49 pm
@William,
Fido, I can understand abstract as it applies to synopsis or abridgment and such but abstract thought when we know the concrete I have difficulty grasping. Is that good or bad? In your example what do you mean "essence abstracted from it". Is there a better word that can be substituted that would make it clearer?

Thanks,
William
Fido
 
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Reply Tue 23 Feb, 2010 05:51 pm
@William,
William;131502 wrote:
Fido, I can understand abstract as it applies to synopsis or abridgment and such but abstract thought when we know the concrete I have difficulty grasping. Is that good or bad? In your example what do you mean "essence abstracted from it". Is there a better word that can be substituted that would make it clearer?

Thanks,
William

I do not know if there is a better word off hand...If you consider art as abstraction of the physical world, then it is only the essential part we see, the front side of everything, and all physical being can be abstracted digitally, again, representing only the near side, and not the whole... A certain value could be asigned to the unknown, but it is not truth, yet the surface of the art might in a sense be verified against the reality...
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