JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 10:26 am
R.I.P. to all those who are still participating in this 'discussion'(argument), don't even try to remind them JPLosman0711. You are not only wasting your time but the time of whomever(most likely) reads this post.

'Proving a point' has nothing to offer the one you're 'proving' it to, nor does it have any value to the one doing the 'proving'. Haven't you all discovered by now that proving your points on this website does not resolve your 'issues'? It should be obvious by now, but if you didn't take the time to realize it before then why should anything different be expected of you?

Just because you can back your statements up with evidence doesn't give anymore validity to them. In fact, I'd say it means that you are actually closer to the incorrect side. If you are making a statement which is true then you do not need proof. Just like you don't need any proof of your existence to continue existing.

Are you trying to coax your listeners into 'believing' what you say with your 'proof'? If what you're saying is correct, why would you need coaxing? You all need to learn how to question your own answers, otherwise you'll just go around telling everyone they're 'wrong', when you are the one playing the 'proof' game.

Quite frankly no one(not even you) is interested in the answers you think you've found.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 10:45 am
@JPLosman0711,
You act as if mental masturbation is a bad thing. Laughing
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 10:54 am
@reasoning logic,
It isn't.

However it can be harmful when you start to believe your own bullshit(masturbation).
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 11:03 am
@JPLosman0711,
Bullshit like this?

Quote:
If you are making a statement which is true then you do not need proof.


That made me Rolling Eyes and Laughing ..
grasya07
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 11:09 am
@Deftil,
can you think of something that is unthinkable?? come to think of it..hmm..
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 11:26 am
@Cyracuz,
Can elaborate on just what it was about that sentence that made you 'laugh/roll eyes'?
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 11:27 am
@grasya07,
Oh wow, that is very deep there sir.

Come find me when you have dis-covered that there isn't anyone who is 'thinking' or even has the ability to 'think'.
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Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 01:36 pm
@JPLosman0711,
The idea that truth is self evident, delivered in the way you did it made me roll eyes and laugh.
I've heard it before, from religious fanatics who say that "God exists and hates fags". It is a true statement in their eyes, one that doesn't need proof. The whole notion is ridiculous, of course.
If you are making a true statement you will have no problems proving it. If you can't that's not because it's true.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 01:46 pm
@Cyracuz,
You are the one who decided to 'subscribe' to there being "self-evidence, truth, ideas, fags etc. etc."

You provide 'proof' for your statements in hopes of 'tricking' people into thinking that you know what you're talking about.

That's not to say, however, that every statement without proof is thereby 'true'. Oh ho you tricky little beaver you! It's funny how you people will use your own entangled was to further entangle yourselves.

Why do you feel the need to make posts that you know will be easily 'understood'(proven, agreed with) by others?

In other words, if you did not have the proof to 'back up' your statements would you not post them? So you expect me to believe that you only really know of that which you can prove?

Come come come now Cyracuz!! Who do you think you're fooling here?!
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 01:57 pm
@JPLosman0711,
I'm not fooling anyone.

You said that a true statement doesn't need proof.

I said that that is bullshit.

That's all.
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 02:02 pm
@Cyracuz,
Something can only be bullshit if you say so. I don't know why you would, unless you like bullshit.

You wouldn't ask someone to proof something they said unless you already had an 'inkling' of it being true. You disregard false statements the moment they are made.

Requiring proof for something someone says is like playing a 'game' which only you know the rules to.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 03:20 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Right.
You are a troll.
And it's true because I say so.

I like your "logic".
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 03:22 pm
@Cyracuz,
If that's the way you choose to see me then yes it is true, I will always be a 'troll' to you then.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 04:19 pm
@JPLosman0711,
1. troll
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

2. troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 04:31 pm
@Cyracuz,
I am not going to reply to that as it would be in both of our best interest to put an end to your 'charade'.

I will say this though, you should alleviate the burden off of your 'self' and just give up the 'act'.
Cyracuz
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 04:44 pm
@JPLosman0711,
So.. that was you not responding? Could have fooled me..
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 04:46 pm
@Cyracuz,
I don't think you're really here to 'learn'.
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Procrustes
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 08:08 pm
Hypatia said that 'Reserve your right to think, to even think wrongly is better to not think at all.' I say 'You might not know your thinking wrongly until you've come to think better.' SO SAYS PROCRUSTES AND SO IT MUST BE TRUE Laughing
JPLosman0711
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 08:42 pm
@Procrustes,
The worst part about your post is that people like you do not realize when they're being stupid and are making fools of themselves.

Procrustes
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 08:50 pm
@JPLosman0711,
Some people don't get a joke, some do. Not my problem that some people take life so seriously.
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