Thank you Didymos, I do enjoy hearing you think outloud, and I welcom you challenging any statement I make, because I hope to abandon thoughts I cannot defend:p. As for my typos and spelling, I am sorry. I don't know how to spell check yet. Pointers on spell check and how to multi quote would be great.
I was never exposed to that first order desire stuff and I have been searching for ways to differentiate humans from animals, so I will look into that some more. I'll look online.
My goal was to question "what is new under the sun" hoping that the answer might reveal if there is really any behavior humans engage in that is new. To clarify the statement I tried to make previously, I'll say that the only thing new is:
1) New physical form
. The universe is a closed system
and while none of the matter in it can be added to, or removed, the only physical change then must be how the matter interacts (relational). Therefore, making an iron axe is no different than making a jack hammer (toolmaking). Spearing an enimey no different than launching an ICBM (waring). So while we manipulate the physical world into new forms, only the form is new, not its element and not our act of forming it.
[INDENT] a) I then attempted to add an exception to the no new matter
statement by mentioning the Hadron Collider (not Hedron). This collider is a 17 mile diamiter underground ring being built in France and Switzerland. Super colliders, as they are called, use huge magnets to smash apart atomic particles and study the results (quarks). It will begin operation in Feb. 08 and they are hoping to find/produce a type of matter (higs boson) that only existed (in theory) for a nanosecond after the big bang. New matter?
[/INDENT]2) New understanding
. As you pointed out in your post, human cognition was new when we began, however, my concern here is new human behavior; so while the ideas and understanding we have may be new, the human thought as an action/function is not new. (I'm not sure if it is correct to objectify human thought in this way?)
I've dug a big hole for myself,and now you can bury me in it;).